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| Mad Scientists Science and Mathematics discussion-- theories, arguments, citations, proofs and pudding. |
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#1
 2002-12-20, 17:56
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Wonder Squirrel 
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0 raised to the 0
Hope this post formats okay..
0 x = 1 regardless of the value of x, right?
But:
x 0 = 0 regardless of the value of x.
So, what does that make:
0 0 equal??
My guess would be 1, but I can't be sure..
------ Wonder Squirrel
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#2
 2002-12-20, 18:35
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The fine line between genius and madness
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
Any number times 0 equals 0. That includes 0. So 0^0=0
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#3
 2002-12-20, 19:32
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Wonder Squirrel 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
Very true.. although..
0 cubed, 0x0x0 = 0 0 squared, 0x0 = 0 0 to the power 1 = 0 - the original number - equivalent to 0x1 if you like.
But, with 0 to the power 0, you're not really multiplying by anything, are you?
I don't disagree with what you've said, it just doesn't explain it too well for me. =)
------ Wonder Squirrel
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#4
 2002-12-20, 21:00
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
3^0 = 3/3 =1
0^0 =0/0
0 divided by any number is still zero
any number divided by zero is undefined
therefore 0^0 is either 0 or undefined lets leave that one to the philosophers
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#5
 2002-12-20, 22:58
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Genital-Warfare 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
Why is anything rised to the zero power one? i asked my math teacher this like 3 years ago, back in algbra, she never gave an answer.
CTR
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#6
 2002-12-20, 23:39
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
I think this might explain it:
3^0=3*(1/3)=1
or
x^0=x * (1/x) = 1
Hope that helped
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#7
 2002-12-21, 16:52
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The Eternal Andy 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
I don't think there's an official answer to this one.....
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#8
 2002-12-21, 21:29
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Genital-Warfare 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
quote: Originally posted by jsaxton14: I think this might explain it:
3^0=3*(1/3)=1
or
x^0=x * (1/x) = 1
Hope that helped
Yeah thats helps, thanks... CTR
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#9
 2002-12-23, 13:39
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brainuser 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
In a case like this the more important rule trumps the lesser one. 0 x 0 = 0 is more important than x^0 = 1.
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#10
 2002-12-23, 16:00
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tHeRoBoT49 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
Any number raised to the 0 power is equal to 1.
You know when you divide numbers raised to exponental powers, if they have the same base number, all you need to do is subtract the exponentals.
Here is the proof:
(10^2)/(10^2) = 100/100 = 1
100 in exponential form is 10^2, since the base number is 10, and they're the same, you can subtract the exponentials. In this case 2-2 = 0 so what is left in the expression is 10^0 or 1.
I just plugged 0^0 in the calculator and it said 1. But that is sort of strange, since you are dividing by 0, the number should be undefined (or in terms of limits: infinity).
Hope this helps.
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#11
 2002-12-23, 21:07
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Wonder Squirrel 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
quote: Originally posted by brainuser: In a case like this the more important rule trumps the lesser one. 0 x 0 = 0 is more important than x^0 = 1.
But surely 0 x 0 is 0 squared? ------ Wonder Squirrel
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#12
 2003-01-14, 20:15
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
0 is the exception for a lot of maths rules. If you punch 0^0 into a scientific calculator you'll get "Error 2" or "Unable to calculate"
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#13
 2003-01-14, 21:40
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hydrvs 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
What about the zero product property wouldn't that mean that 0^0 is 0 ?
and 0/0 isn't undefined?
so .... what's 0^0? 0, 1, undefined???
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#14
 2003-01-14, 22:25
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
The four calculators I just tried say 0^0=1. And: http://mathforum.org/dr.math/faq/faq.0.to.0.power.html
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#15
 2003-01-15, 14:55
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Wonder Squirrel 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
Ah, nifty. Thanks for the link xenosss. I guess this kinda means the answer depends on context. And when no context is specified, 0^0=1
Neat.
------ Wonder Squirrel
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#16
 2003-01-15, 20:27
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
i think there are 1 0's in 0 therefore 0^0=1. But I dont believe it.
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#17
 2003-01-16, 06:12
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tryptamine 
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Re: 0 raised to the 0
zero is not a number and the 0^0 is undefined. Not 0 not 1 simply undefined.
It is just a matter of philosophy.
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