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 #1 
Old 2002-12-01, 22:57
b4d0m3n b4d0m3n is offline
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Theoretically would it be possible to make a Mobile Suit of any sort, or a machine the likes of Mech Warrior? An Eva perhaps? I'm just curious.
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Old 2002-12-02, 04:51
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Of course it is possible. But not just yet. Besides being incredibly expensive, it takes a lot of computing power to maintain balance on legs. Of course, adding a few gyroscopes would help.
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Old 2002-12-02, 07:25
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ummmm why would u want one? they would only be good as a toy, they got no advantages, only looks cool. i mean, they'll be the same as a fat behemoth with some guns and a jetpack maybe. so conclusion : might be cool to beat people up with and show off to ur frnds but too expensive and wont be practical
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Old 2002-12-02, 08:29
b4d0m3n b4d0m3n is offline
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Hurricane, I'm only looking for theory here, not a reason to have one. Giant robots are cool, yes.
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Old 2002-12-02, 08:56
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As of now there is a man building primative, two-story mechas. His take on the situation is to get a patent for mechas before the military catches onto the idea. This was in a Pojos gundam-wing magazine [ok, you got me I'm a gundam wing fan ;p], so it's not BS.

As I said it's primative, nothing like the ones you see in the cartoons. This mecha performs the basic actions. Ah... the future...
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Old 2002-12-02, 09:17
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It's very tricky to balance on just two mechanical legs. Bipedal systems are inherently unstable, and need constant observation and adjustment to joints to stay upright; there can be no stasis. However, using an emergent growth program designed to emulate problem solving could allow the Bi-Pedal Robot system to remain upright, move around, walk, run, climb stairs, et al, after a lengthy "calibration time" where the system learns to walk while stumbling a lot.

It interests me because there are a few designs in games, books, and movies for Bi-Pedal, autonomous robots that could be adapted for many differet uses, including combat, once someone figures out how to get the bots to stand up on their own two feet.
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Old 2002-12-02, 19:38
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As promised-

Q:Why?
Earle:Why not? To be cool. To be worshipped by nerds across the globe.
Lang:Gotta beat the military/NASA to the punch. Otherwise, we civilians will never get to use them. Besides this is Bakersfield. What else are we going to do besides build giant 'bots?
"Earle" is Earle Bishop, "Lang" is Lang Nelson, and they're in charge of engineering and aesthetics for one of the strangest do-it-yourself projects in recent memory: the effort to build an honest-to-goodness, real-life mech.
Now don't start thinking you ought to start saving so you can spring for one of these instead of a Playstation 2. Bishop and Nelson and their merry band at MechaPS figure it'll be twenty-five years before a fully-blown anime style creation is mass-produced. On the other hand prototypes exist. The actual metal-on-metal building should occur sometime this year and production models may roll out in 2003 if everything breaks right-which developers think might just happen.
The mech on the drawing board is two-legged and stands about 25 feet tall. Its central structure of steel I-beams is covered with shells of circular metal and fiberglass or plastic. (Everythings pretty basic on the current drawing-board model; no swoopy fiberglass sheating....yet.)
A conventional internal combustion engine will power the first mech, and core functions like walking and maintaining balance will be handled by a special blend of hardware and software.
Right now there are absolutely no plans to add big honking cannons to the mech.
The developers will have to settle for having the thing walk and turn and maintain its balance consistently. Bishop suspects that the mech's main use will be in construction and similarly dangerous civilian-sector jobs.
Nelson offers another viewpoint: "If this is successful, I would have a hard time not seeing the military interested in this project."
The other big thing on the MechaPS agenda is finding a place to build the thing. Right now, MechaPS is a glorified garage project. But with land secured south of Bakersfield for an engineering project facility, and since third-party funding is not a problem, MechaPS will be out of the garage soon.
Today the garage and tomorrow the world?
Something like that. MechaPS' goals-a mecha in every home, or at least on every construction site, by 2025-may seem fantastic, but the slow-and-steady way they're going about achieving these goals is anything but.
For the complete scoop on the mecha project, including an almost day-by-day log of the company's progress, check it out here.

This was written some time ago, and I haven't visited that site in a looong looonnng time. So things may have changed.
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Old 2002-12-04, 21:32
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ever played a game called armored core?
that is the kind of mech i want with the moonlight laser blade i would slice through stuff like butter err sumthin soft like it heheheheh
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Old 2002-12-05, 02:12
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You can build a big walking thing but it wont really be worth it and it wouldn't be anything like an Eva. It would move slowly and be very unstable. If you took it to war, anything could push it off balance or slam it to its leg and make it fall. If its still in one peace after the fall, I don't think getting up would be to easy, so many controls to move and your still dizzy from the impact of falling. I think mechs will always be more si-fi than real life. The good'old tank will be among us forever.

Anyway, is it possible to make something like a Mech or Eva? If 'like' means "Can you make something that goes 200mpr, flys 500m into the sky and blows up angels and anything else in its way with ease?" Then no.

Hey, when will we have laser guns on the streets? Bullets are getting old.
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Old 2002-12-05, 13:05
b4d0m3n b4d0m3n is offline
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In theory it IS possible to make an Eva. Just not in practice at the MOMENT. Anyways, MECHAS ROCK!!!!
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Old 2003-01-17, 04:01
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Guys,

It is totaly posible to build a Bi-pedal robot that would look like a mech but it is just that the size of those beasts is not viable. A mate and myself have started designing and programing a system in UNIX that will drive all of the logic and movement systems. The only reason that the system would not work is that hydrolic systems are too slow and they dont make a servo-motor big enough to move that fast.

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Old 2003-01-18, 09:39
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No hydraulics, no servo-electrics... that leaves air power. Pneumatics. Or Some sort of high tension cable/fulcrum/counterbalance system that resembles the human hand: Ligaments connected to the different bones and joints are 'powered' by muscles in the forearms.
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Old 2003-01-19, 18:22
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building a spider robot would be much easier
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Old 2003-01-21, 03:06
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You guy's are a little late on yer news...Theive Built one Already in Japan Modled after the Gundam Wing suit. And there testing it already.
Check it out: http://www.geocities.co.jp/HeartLand-Himawari/2544/photosg.html
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Old 2003-01-26, 16:28
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Because you can always trust geocities sites. Just like the Great Lake Whales incident.
 
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