I was just curious, noboody said if they were into wicca or anything. I am.

Shallow I use to take a interist into Wicca and read alot about it. But quickly realized it wasn't quite what I was looking for. There are many paths to follow. I choose to follow my own. But if Wicca works for you Then Good. Remember to keep an open mind to all religions. If you can find it a really good book is "Modern Magick"(Eleven Lessons in the High Magickal Arts). By Donald Michael Kraig. Llewellyn Publications.



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Ain
Life is Hard... Get a Helmet.

Thanks Ain, I've been into Wicca for a while, It's not like I do it all the time or anything, I have other things to do aswell. I'm glad you chose your own path, good luck down it.

At one time I was pretty deep into wicca. Alot of it made sense. It just kind of died off in me. Read Scott Cunningham, he has a ton of books out.

I'm interested in people that think magic is reality.

depends on what type of 'magic' you are refering to...

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Deshabandhashcittasya dhaaranaa //1//
Concentration is the mind's fixation on one point.
Pata�jali from Yogasuutra-s of Pata�jali, 1st aphorism, Book III

Z3m Magick is spirituality. Even Catholic's have their Rites And Rituals. Is the same thing. It is all Symbolism. No matter how you worship.




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Ain
Life is Hard... Get a Helmet.

Even Catholics believe it's literal.

i used to be interested in the occult and such.

anybody read the book "the ultimate evil"

it made a reference to where i'm from, north dakota, specifically the minot air force base as one of the major places in america for "witches" and "satan-worshipping"

my roommate used to have this drummer in his band from minot.

and he got wrapped up in it heavily, once in it's hard to get out because it's a form of brainwashing. they make you think the whole world is against you, and the people in the cult are your only friends.

you are easily misled, because the people that come looking showing an interest in it, all generally fit the same psychological profiles, lost in life and looking for direction, and most importantly looking for the answers to the future.

they can pick up personality traits by your style of dress, and basically say they provide the answer for every persons question that they ask at one time or another.

"is this all i am, is there nothing more"

and when a fed generallities about your past, which are picked up by the personality traits that you give off upon first meeting your belief in them is reaffirmed and you start to believe everything else they tell you.

he got out of it, by realizing that most of the people that joined were just like him, which got hime wondering.

then he realized that all of the "majick" was just "tricks" you could get at a magic shop, and "tricks" you could perform with household items.

the rest was just how much they had you believing.

and that the people in power, were just that people who wanted control over others, when they realized in life they couldn't get over general society, they turned to those society threw away or who just turned their back on society.

they convinced you were in the possession of great power upon man, but you generally found out you had no control over anything except those who joined after you did.

But Al was a real cool guy.

...And the Book of the Law was more truthful than any occultist seems to realize.

The Book of Pleasure was good as well. The whole idea was taken way out of proportion, however.

Unfounded faith, no matter what form it takes, is a bad thing. Ramble.

thunbs up Z3m...

you should take what anyone tells you with a grain of salt. find your own way of relating with existence. any type of 'group' should be there as a reference of information (as to where to find it), not as the basis of forming your personal beliefs/philosophy.

The reason why people in this society get caught up in 'groups' is because we, as a Christian society, are used to being told what we should believe. When people decide to look at other philosophies or religions, they go looking for another 'group' to tell them what they must believe.

If you are going to revamp your belief structure, make sure you are not using your old thought habits from your old belief structure. You have to start all over, from scratch. You also need to make sure you are looking in a certain place for the right reasons... going into a 'group' because they promise you power(s) is probably not a good reason, thus a shitty choice.

Basically, most people walk into situations blindly. They are accustomed to the dark.

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Deshabandhashcittasya dhaaranaa //1//
Concentration is the mind's fixation on one point.
Pata�jali from Yogasuutra-s of Pata�jali, 1st aphorism, Book III

hey shallow bitch, fuck wicca, the womans liberation movement of occultism, rules and dogmas that enslave, chaos matrix is for the individual check it out you hairy armed chicky babe, and shave those legs woman!! www.chaosmatrix.com

nihilisim!!!!

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And "Chaos Magick" isn't dogmatic and silly?

Yeah.

I'm just curious, but have you read Spare's work? What he thinks of the Death Posture and sigils?

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And "Chaos Magick" isn't dogmatic and silly?

Yeah.

I'm just curious, but have you read Spare's work? What he thinks of the Death Posture and sigils?

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dogmatic and silly , nah man, the priciples arn't its just the individuals choice of working, come on man read dam you,
indeed, i have read every thing of spares, a master of the mind, including the focuss of life and the self love, his art work is emphatic too,

nihilism!!!!



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totally nihilistic

You seem to have no defining characteristics of yourself, and instead cling to nihilism while preaching individuality... but you're just another smirking, wannabe clone.

*takes a shit on nihilistic's head*

And stop telling us you're nihilistic. We got it already.

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Originally posted by Trippy_McGee:
You seem to have no defining characteristics of yourself, and instead cling to nihilism while preaching individuality... but you're just another smirking, wannabe clone.

*takes a shit on nihilistic's head*

And stop telling us you're nihilistic. We got it already.

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i dont smirk i frown, but laugh at your substituted pursuit of personal manerisums, a clone?, feel your own path and your own strength, dont address me, you are pissing into the wind, you would take a shit on my head, i would take an ebilonggated pile of platerpuss(auzzie creature) sabsuc and show your strength and awareness in a nut shell, what you know is weak....what you think...is useless, and what your are... is both, the nihilistic void is to hurt full for some one who calls them self trippy, whats the matter pest, living your life through the reactions and praise of others, your subjects arnt as important as the actual medium it self, niether is the light or atmosphere that you are trying to create, dont bother attaining from my posts.


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Heh. Gotta love the crazy shit that goes on downunder.

platerpuss, eh?

*buys nihilistic a brand new dictionary*

I'm australian... what beer do you drink, by the way?

no way your an auzzie mate, pigs fucking ass,every one knows that the best beer is home brew, carlton cold and vb are 'close 'but thats what van goe(or how ever its spelt) said about his ear, tones of secrets exist on how to get your brew just right, but i dont drink, i dont take drugs, i dont need any thing to be in an altred state, all the weight training and mind reading and processing of awareness is enough testos for me, i suffer from high energy levals, and train on average of 2 too 2 and a half hours five days a week, weight training, the rest in two killing techniques, as well i train the members in our horde as well, piss is boring, drugs even more, but strength and awareness, are un equalled,and dont be critical about spelling, give a cunt a break ever now and than for fuck sake.

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totally nihilistic

Listen dumpy. No one wants to read your damn stupid posts over and over again to figure out what the fuzz you're trying to say. It's enough to be dissapointed when we figure it out.

You're 27 and yet you seem like a preteen on here.

I wish I was an idiot too, but we can't all be. Who would run the rocket ships?

your all the dudes that have a carpet ass full of fuzz ha ha, i am trying to get some use full info across for you to judge your self, and all as i get is these padded cells of the ego assylm, i was answering his questions about beer, dumpy.. yeah i need to back one out, ooops its going to be a huge dump!!!!

ps-i tryed to get into wicca once but when i sharpened the girls knife asked her if she was a santanist and said get me a beer bitch, she asked me to leave. doh
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wicca is a trendy. hasnt always been, but within the last decade it has just become the "cool" thing to do. i mostly notice wicca as being young women, who are lonley and lost, looking for some kind of an answer. they are attracted to wicca beceause of it's mystery and glamour. if you are really into it then thats fine, but why go around saying "yeah im into wicca" like its a fucking rock and roll band or something. its a beleif system. but you have to admit, it seems very trendy sometimes.


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Well if you want my opinion on the matter I think wicca is a pile of shight same as all religion. Only an idiot would join a cult cos they misdirected fuckups. No such thing as God, the Devil, Angels, Fairies, Munchkins and what the fuck else. There is nothing but the pure evil of mankind. Anyway back to the point about wicca Yes i would join a coven of witches but thats only coz i could have pure sex wiv all 12 of them and fulfill my sordid sexual fantasies and spill loads of cum on their tight little asses. mmmmmmmmm yummy

bwhaa hha ahhwha awhaawaaa, what about those three sluts from charmed, hmhmhmhmhmhmmmmmmm

yeah you are right sam, preverted it they have, preverted the image of the female liberation movement, for fuck sake woman, shave those legs and put some fucking deoderamnt on,

but on a serious every chick into wicca that i know is like that,

Hey Shallow to be quite serious many years ago i was into all that stuff and i dident find it of any use to myself but i never went in depth with it so i cant really give a valid opinion on it although i still have have some of the books etc etc from those days. In all fairness if i had to choose a religion to follow then wicca would be my No 1 choice but the thing is I just dont beleive in anything.

Woody, pull your lips of of nihilistic's dick for a minute and listen to me. Wicca has been around a hell of a lot longer than most other religions that are considered mainstream (christianity, judiasiam, buddisim, etc...) And it's not just 'chicks' that are into it either. What the fuck are you calling a 'cult' anyways? You obviously don't know much about it if you truly beleive that it is a cult. It's fine not to beleive in anything, but that doesn't mean that you have to rip on those that do chose to beleive in something.
And I find your veiws on wiccan sexuality disgusting.

Wicca, as like all modern occult followings, is based on a fairy tale of deep traditions and ancient knowledge.

I defy anyone to prove Wicca is as old as even Christianity... Let alone Hinduism!

Prometheus I agree with you in that respect about wicca being the oldest tradition and what not but it is still a cult just like the catholics, the prodestants, the hindus, the mormans and who the fuck else coz theres that many of the idiots running about claiming all types of shit. Wicca is a cult in the fact that you join a group and partake in ritual ceremonies and follow a tradition just like every other cult. The only reason you say it is not a cult is the fact that it has been around for a very long time. Maybe in 5000 years time people will say that the moonies and hare krishna sect are not cults because by then they will have been around for a very long time. They are all one and the same and the main point of wicca is some preist or preistess is as dirty as me and wants to get his rocks off wiv as many ppl as possible so Hey Im going to open a coven and i get to shag 12 bitches eerrrr witches. Yeah Il get slabs of beer a couple oz of ganga and all i have to do is knock up a mock alter wiv a couple o planks of wood couple o nails etc etc get some candles paint em black get my mates round and invite Nihilistic wiv his mates and il start chanting spells to make us all richer than what bill gates can only dream about. Il slam some xxxxxxx filth on the old vid. Il have big neon signs outside saying "Woodys Coven" Party on now. Come on down . . . . The Price Is Right. Bring a Bottle. What a fuckin terriffic idea oh yeah my penile erectile tissue is throbbing and increasing in size to astronomical proportions just thinking bout all this mega filth. And Prometheus you will have to pay a membership fee for being disrespectfull to me and hey bout me saying shit in previous posts . . . So !! But hey Prometheus come on down for a one night trial and you will see every disgusting carnal filthy dirty skullfucking erotic sex act that even porno producers cant even think up. . . . Fuck I might even get a couple of nuns in and shag their anal canal balloon knots. Right im off now to knock up a alter for tonight.



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It's not old. Maybe you missed my countless posts on the subject?

I read about it, I just don't put much faith in it.

I use to be in a large "wiccan" coven but I wasn't wiccan. I was a witch. To me modern wiccans seem more interested in saying "Don't get mad at me, I'm not really a satanist". Not all are like that, but most of the ones I met were. I also had issues with the whole "we must be nice and good, but at the same time believe in duality." That didn't make sense to me either. I think you need to accept all part of nature, the fuzzy bunny aspects as well as the cold blooded snake parts. Wiccans work very hard at being passive and not rocking to boat. If you are a witch, you just are and it doesnt make a damn bit of difference what you neighbor thinks or how much the latest Llwellynn bit of claptrap cost.

Did they poke you in the gooey gooey?

gooey gooey, Bwhahahahahahah

Anyway, here's a good book: "The history and Practice of Magic" by Paul Christian ( His last name is christian, Go figure)

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Wicca, as like all [b]modern occult followings, is based on a fairy tale of deep traditions and ancient knowledge.

I defy anyone to prove Wicca is as old as even Christianity... Let alone Hinduism![/B]

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Duh. New religions aren't always bad, but when they pretend to be old it disgusts me.