Okay, I've this new theory on teleportation: once your molecules have been decoded and are traveling through hyperspace, and you are just a bit of data, what happens if the transfer is interupted, stopped or teh ddata is destroyed? Do you cease to exist, or does your brain still work, but you have no body?

Please respond.

Depends on how the teleportation is happening. Can you elaborate? If you were loading yourself into a computer & transferring over a (phone?) line, wouldn't it be just as easy to leave your self here & make another self there? Safegaurd.

I don't think of teleportation as a time bound, space travelling experience. It's more like telepathy - both people in telepathy have the same thought, at the same time, with no physical connection or time elapsed in which a transfer could happen. Teleportation is the same, in the theories I've read - no time or space is traversed during which an interruption could happen.

Then let's pretend that it takes apart every molecule in your body, and sends them through the phone line or whatever to another teleportation machine, that will decode your body. If you disappear at one spot, and the 'information' that is you disappears/is destroyed, what happens?

In that case, I imagine you will be destroyed. If you are taken apart, & exist only in the transfer line - then that is where you are. If that is lost, you are lost. My guess.

youd probably be fine, exept with a few corrupt or missing molecules (molecules arent very big, nobody will notice a few of them missing)... But there would probably be a checksum in place, and your original body would not be destroyed until it was ensured that your copy had arrived and was assembled correctly... It seems that with such advanced technology, they would probably also have a few simple safety measures in place....

love, SyntaX Err0R

hyperspace

I really don't understand why you would say hyperspace has anything to do with it...

if it was possible to transport your body as data through telecommunication lines, it would seperate your mind from your body. your mind cannot be broken down like that. so if u were to do this(if it was possible) you would need someway for your mind to find your body once it arrives

Then this discussion is about the body/mind mystery.

Some people believe the mind(spirit?) is a thing seperately from the body, and even independent.(Plato)
Others believe the mind is part of the body, so then the mind would be 'just' a v�ry complex combination of molecules and processes between them.

In the latter case, you would just cease to exist, as your molecules would be lost. In the former, I honestly don't know. Different religions have different ideas about what the spirit IS, exactly, so there are almost unlimited different possibilities here.

Keep in mind that molecules don't easily 'vanish'.
Only a few that I know of:
1)Einstein's law: E = mc�, shows that matter can be converted into energy. However, the energy that would be converted from one human body, would easily be enough to waste the entire Earth.
2)Matter-antimatter nullification. Like an electron can be nullified by impact of a positron, being the exact opposite of it. Again this huge amount(same) of energy comes free if the same body would be nullified, making it an example that Einstein's law is correct.

Hi Everyone,

What i'm going to say is NOT published in any books... Some of the highest truth has NEVER been printed...

There are a SMALL number of guru's in India who have mastered the ability to TELEPORT themselves anywhere in this world.. This is done in a fraction of one second..
NONE of the guru's who can do teleportation
will EVER demonstrate this capability in PUBLIC.. They ONLY do it in the presence of their most devoted disciples.... They use NO mechanical devices to teleport.. They do it by the power of their mind... Of course for them to master the ability to TELEPORT themselves anywhere, they must undergo about 30 years of intense and constant training...
So this is NOT easily accomplished and the training blueprints are very highly guarded...

I will understand if most of you won't believe one word of what i just said... After all, i'm not talking about something that is common knowledge...

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

ancientone: How is it that you know this? Have you been to India, & seen it for yourself? I'm curious - please elaborate.

gorath mentioned the emergence theory. It is an interesting note. If emergence were true, then technological transportation shouldn't be a problem. Deconstructing the moleceules will result in a ceasing of physical existence, & reconsctructing will reconstitute physical awareness.

I don't believe emergence is true. I think the true person is an awareness which exists at a higher level vibrationally than the physical. I would have trouble reconciling OBE's & emergence, for example. I believe the being lowers itself to connect with the physical body. I am also partial to the theory that every human is actually one ray, or one piece of a single consciousness - the human consciousness. Otherkin & travelers aside, it might happen like this:

The energetic being would suddenly find itself without a body. This would be akin to death. It would expand out & rejoin with the universal human consciousness. The being would have that experience of just knowing 'everything, everywhere.' They would see that there, on that continent across the pacific ocean, their body is back. They would filter back down, again, & regain individuality. This would be a damnably disconcerting experience - it would feel like a death & rebirth. I imagine the body would need to be transferred quickly enough that the person didn't drift off & decide to stay.

I've always thought that teleportation by mind would happen by taking a step in one of the hidden directions. Movement in the hidden dimensions. Take one step, & your out of this world & time. Maybe you walk for 10 minutes & come back, but come back to the time you left. Wouldn't be like walking, in any case, & maybe the physical body can't travel these dimensions. String theory discusses them. Spiritual traditions discuss them. 4th dimension.

Maybe someone else knows how true teleportation happens?

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ancientone: How is it that you know this? Have you been to India, & seen it for yourself? I'm curious - please elaborate.

gorath mentioned the emergence theory. It is an interesting note. If emergence were true, then technological transportation shouldn't be a problem. Deconstructing the moleceules will result in a ceasing of physical existence, & reconsctructing will reconstitute physical awareness.

I don't believe emergence is true. I think the true person is an awareness which exists at a higher level vibrationally than the physical. I would have trouble reconciling OBE's & emergence, for example. I believe the being lowers itself to connect with the physical body. I am also partial to the theory that every human is actually one ray, or one piece of a single consciousness - the human consciousness. Otherkin & travelers aside, it might happen like this:

The energetic being would suddenly find itself without a body. This would be akin to death. It would expand out & rejoin with the universal human consciousness. The being would have that experience of just knowing 'everything, everywhere.' They would see that there, on that continent across the pacific ocean, their body is back. They would filter back down, again, & regain individuality. This would be a damnably disconcerting experience - it would feel like a death & rebirth. I imagine the body would need to be transferred quickly enough that the person didn't drift off & decide to stay.

I've always thought that teleportation by mind would happen by taking a step in one of the hidden directions. Movement in the hidden dimensions. Take one step, & your out of this world & time. Maybe you walk for 10 minutes & come back, but come back to the time you left. Wouldn't be like walking, in any case, & maybe the physical body can't travel these dimensions. String theory discusses them. Spiritual traditions discuss them. 4th dimension.

Maybe someone else knows how true teleportation happens?

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Hi Grib,

MAYBE I KNOW WHAT YOU SEEK TO KNOW !

I am someone that has personally studied
(many years ago )under several very wise men who taught me many things that were NEVER printed in any books... I will not discuss much of my private learning and training in public... I am very psychic, i am a trained healer, i am expert in hypnosis, i am a meta-physican, i am a seer, i am a empath, i can communicate with the dead and with animals,i am a spirtual teacher,i can see into other dimensions while in my body... NOT by out of body travel... and a few other things... Just to give you a small idea of my background... I'm not telling you to brag, just to give you some understanding of me..

It is easy to get confused on these things, especially when you try to understand what i said, by looking at what i said through the eyes of quantum physics & other current prevailing scientific theories...That's what most of your statements are based on...

I will NOT discuss any training aspects connected with how a small number of guru's are able to do teleportation without any physical props or mechanical devices...They do it ONLY with their minds...

Teleportation by mind capability ALONE definately does NOT involve changing dimensions... I am taking about transporting your physical body instantly to any place on this planet... No de-materializing your body is involved with doing it, with ONLY your mind...

Since the training is about 30 years long, it involves hundreds of individual steps to each be accomplished in order to master teleportation... Easier said than done...
The same training can be used to be able to walk on water, cure incurable disase's, levitation and a few other things that i won't disclose...
Those very few that can do these things NEVER do them publically... The only one in recorded history that publically did any of these things is Jesus...

You need to understand that mastering any or all of the above has to do with VERY ADVANCED SPIRTUAL UNDERSTANDING & KNOWLEDGE... This knowledge is HIGHLY guarded because too many people would use these things for evil purposes if the knowledge was readily available... It is NOT in books... You could spend your entire life trying to find one person who is a GUARDIAN of the MOST SECRET & HIGHEST knowledge...

Anyone that even attempted to learn to do the above things that was NOT completely spirtual, would be subject to very serious dangers, worse than death...
There are invisible spirtual guardians that would intervene with any person trying to learn any of the above, that was seeking to use these capabilities for selfish or evil intentions...

From some of what you said, i can see that you are slightly confused on dimensions...

Ist we are souls... NOT that we have a soul...
Our planet that we live in is the 3rd dimension...
When we physically die, we go to the 4th dimension also known as the astral plane...
The 4th dimension is very much like the 3rd in a number of ways...
One is that EVIL exists in the 4th dimension, just as it does here...

EACH of us has more than ONE body...
We each have a physical 3rd dimensional body..
We each have a astral or 4th dimensional body..
We each have other bodies that i won't go in to...

You talked about de-materializing your body...
It is ALL based on the frequency at which matter vibrates...
4th dimensinal bodies are at a higher frequency than 3rd dimensional bodies...
So to change from one dimension to another and back again means you are able to completely control the speed at which the atoms in your body move, and change them by thought alone...
If you are changing your physical body to a 4th dimensional frequency, then you would NOT be visible in this 3rd dimension until you changed your physical body back to a 3rd dimensional frequency... creating invisibility for all general intents and purposes...

It would not involve a feeling similar to death or experiencing knowing everything everywhere as you suggested in your post to me...

Now as to the 5th dimension and beyond...
Just changing your body to a 5th dimensional frequency is NOT enough... The 5th dimension and beyond is the realm of the real angels.. It is also the realm of the TRUE HEAVENS...
NOBODY can sneak into HEAVEN itself, by changing their body frequency... Those fortunate Earthlings who have made enough spirtual progress to ADVANCE to the HEAVEN of the 5th dimension, have to go through a very special spirtual process that involves more than just a change in dimensional frequencies..

I won't reveal the spirtual process details except to say that you are physically altered to be about 25 years old... Get used to youth because you will remain 25 forever... Babies and children will be advanced in age to 25.... So NO PARENTING IN HEAVEN... There is NO child bearing in HEAVEN...

NO physical deformities..They will all be cured... No fat people.. Everyone has perfect bodies and figures.. Every woman will be a playboy centerfold as to her looks.. PLUS YOU WON'T BE BORED as some people speculate... You literally have millions of things to choose from as far as keeping yourself busy is concerned... HEAVEN is very organized... Planets in HEAVEN are in perfection, no earthquakes, hurricanes, ect... Expect to meet residents of HEAVEN from many other planets... Most of the CREATOR's children from other planets look very similar to us...

There is no EVIL in HEAVEN... NO more struggling, death, pain, suffering, you don't require food or sleep BUT you may eat or sleep if you want to... no more old age,

I know you will probably have more questions.. I WILL NOT REVEAL THE ANSWERS TO ANYTHING UNDER THE SUN, MOON, AND STARS... even if i could answer them...

I will NOT go into any more detail on the above than i have said in this post... I have answered you as much as i have just because i believe the time has come for MORE regular people to realize that there are many things that are quite real that they never dreamed existed...

I am open to revealing SOME things about the Creator that are NOT known on this planet...
The CREATOR has a much BIGGER picture than just this one wee speck of a planet on the edge of the Milky Way galaxy.... Your planetary religions don't discuss GOD beyond the scope of planet Earth.... GOD exists for his children on billions of other worlds in over 100,000 galaxies, which are ALL in the 3rd dimension...

FOOD FOR THOUGHT :
It is widely taught to Christians on this planet that Jesus was the Son Of GOD who was crucified and died for their sins...
I ONLY GOT ONE QUESTION FOR THOSE MASSES THAT BELIEVE THAT !
Since GOD has other children on billions of other planets in the 3rd dimension...

"Would GOD put his SON Jesus through such a HELL of being born on billions of worlds to grow up and be murdered and crucified for the sins of HIS children on these billions of other planets" ???

SO ITS NO SURPRISE TO ME THAT RELIGIONS ON THIS WORLD ONLY TALK ABOUT GOD, AS IF HE EXISTS EXCLUSIVELY FOR EARTHLINGS !
Religions on this planet would have to do a MAJOR re-write of their bibles and sacred books to include the INTERPLANETARY & GALATIC ASPECTS OF GOD THE FATHER & HIS SON !

Earth is NOT the center of creation as Earth centered Earthlings would like to believe !
What an arragant planetary species Earthlings are !

Regarding you wanting to know how i know what i know.....All I'll say is that i clearly remember hundreds of previous lifetimes as well as remembering the astral plane between lifetimes...
Almost ALL people are born into this world because they had NO choice in the matter.. They were required to be re-born for karmic reasons...

However there are exceptions to that...
There are a few Earthlings who come into birth by choice.. They were NOT required to be re-born for any karmic reasons... They could have stayed in an astral heaven if they had wanted to...
I AM ONE OF THOSE SOULS..

In case anyone is interested :
I only teach in person and am very selective on the extent to what i will teach and train a specific student...

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

PS.. NOBODY has to believe one word of anything i said... If you think i'm telling you some make believe science fiction story
then consider yourself entertained !
PSS.... I am definitely EITHER entertaining you with TRUTH or MAKE BELIEVE STUFF !
It's up to each of you to decide which !

ancientone,

Interesting. Thank you for your elaboration. Thank you also for your description of the dimensions.

I'm interested by your interaction with this forum. Care to explain why you use such caps emphasis?

Also: you continually state that much important knowledge is not printed. You seem to be saying that it is not true that good will prevail, given equal footing with evil. True, or not?

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ancientone,

Interesting. Thank you for your elaboration. Thank you also for your description of the dimensions.

I'm interested by your interaction with this forum. Care to explain why you use such caps emphasis?

Also: you continually state that much important knowledge is not printed. You seem to be saying that it is not true that good will prevail, given equal footing with evil. True, or not?

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Hi Grib,

You are welcome !

That's is exactly why i use some caps... for emphasis... not for shouting...

Regarding my saying some truth has never been printed.. Lets put it this way... "Did i say anything that you NEVER heard or read anywhere before" ???

Now about GOOD & EVIL :

NO i am not saying that it is not true that good will prevail...
EVIL does NOT have equal footing with GOOD !
Never had... Never will...
The idea that good has equal footing with evil is a FALSE teaching that premeates this planet...
Though its easy to understand how Earthlings came to that conclusion...

The HIGHEST truth of the matter is that those Earthlings & ET's that are evil are permitted to exercise their free wills, just like all good people can exercise their free wills, its never been that GOD could not stop ALL evil in the blinking of an eye...
It's never been that GOD can't exercise complete control over all evil, because GOD CAN...

GOD will end all evil on this planet at the time of the 2nd COMING Of Jesus... At that time there will be a planetary wide judgement on each and every Earthling and all ET's hiding on this planet... Those evil ones that live in the illusion that evil will be battling with good are in for a rude awakening during the 2nd COMING...
All evil ones who worship the fallen angels named Satan & Lucifer will then find out that Satan & Lucifer are in confinement, similar to death row in one of Earth's prisons AND face soul extinction... Satan & Lucifer have been in complete confinment for a long time..

So i just revealed another false belief on this planet... THAT A SOUL IS ETERNAL AND CAN'T BE DESTROYED.... GOD CAN IN FACT DESTROY ANY SOUL THAT HE CREATED !

There are astral demons that have been posing as Satan & Lucifer for thousands of years now...
Devil Worshipers have been tricked by these astral demons into thinking they were fallen angels... ALL fallen angels are in lockdown with Satan & Lucifer...
Satan & Lucifer DID HAVE THEIR FREE WILL CAPABILITY TO DO EVIL, TAKEN AWAY BY GOD THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO !

Even though there are astral hells at this time... At the time of the 2nd COMING all astral hells will end....
There will be NO final hell for all evil ones to go to and reign with Satan & Lucifer.. FOR there will be NO final hell...
ALL EVIL EARTHLINGS WILL JOIN SATAN & LUCIFER IN EXPERIENCING SOUL DEATH !
Soul extinction is eternal, can not be un-done... It's ceasing to exist on all levels.. NO more thoughts or consciousness...

Those those dumb Earthlings that look forward to being in hell with all their buds, they will instead become extinct... CEASE TO EXIST....
Satan & Lucifer truly hated humans and have their humans followers following them into soul death... PERFECT JUSTICE !

NOTE ON A PRESENT EARTH FAD :
All those Earthlings who are terrorists and believe they will become martyrs in heaven, by seeing how many women and children they can blow up by blowing themselves up, are in for a rude awakening!
It's TOO LATE for those that have already blown themselves up.. They went straight to a HORRIBLE astral hell... They get to enjoy HELL's FIRE on their astral bodies as a reward !
PS.. astral bodies can feel pain just like a physical body...
What a price to pay for being so stupid as to think they would receive a reward in heaven for killing innocent people...
THOSE TERRORIST IDIOTS WILL BURN IN HELL's FIRE UNTIL THE 2ND COMING !

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

PS..I am constantly amazed at how backward and unevolved Earthlings are, compared to GOD's children on many other planets in creation...

I see. Thanks for being open. I feel we will hear some interesting discussion from you.

Be well.
-n

ok, what about this - what happens to your astral body when your physical body is teleportated elsewhere? or does your astral body be de-molecularised also ?

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Originally posted by ahriman:
ok, what about this - what happens to your astral body when your physical body is teleportated elsewhere? or does your astral body be de-molecularised also ?

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Hi Ahariman,

Good Question :
Your physical body and astral body are connected by something commonly called the "silver cord" during your entire lifetime... This silver cord can not be seen with the naked eye..
When the connection between the physical body and your astral body is broken then you go through death..

Regarding your question :
If the physical body were teleported somewhere, your connected astral body would automatically be teleported with your physical body...

NEXT :
I never said your physical body is de-molecularised during teleportation...
IT'S NOT...
My earlier conversation pertained to teleportation ONLY by using the mind to do the telepotation... NO de-materialization OR de-molecularization is involved in that process...

I assume however that to do teleportation using some kind of machines, would require de-materialization or de-molecularization of the body in some way... I know of no such machine having been created on this planet...

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

Ancient One
not to say anything bad, this would be the worst place to say it, but it sounds like a bunch of hoohaa to me. your argument is flawed to such a degree that it would take all night to pick out logic flaws. for example


"Would GOD put his SON Jesus through such a HELL of being born on billions of worlds to grow up and be murdered and crucified for the sins of HIS children on these billions of other planets"

its entirely possible that if jesus did exist on this planet he died on this planet. there has to be a front line for every war, whos to say were not it. anyway before i go off on a rant here ill get back to the subject of the post, if u lose just a bit of data it could seriously mess u up. a mess up could take away a cromosome or even rebuild it wrong. who knows u may even have the classic joke in spaceballs where your ass is backwards. and to put it in technical terms like u did MSW2006 would mean that if one were to teleport then there would be a first copy that would eather be destroyed like a computer file, or like grains of sand though an hour glass be sucked though. i personaly dont think that would ever happen. the brain would be decoded and unlocked far before there was enough computing power to copy the human body atom by atom to anther place. im guessing they will just have a meat sack clone body or a cyborg body ready for u if u wanted to "teleport" as it were. hope this helps.

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I'm not elaborating on this as much as most of you, but I'd guess that you would have to network two different lines, your body by phone line, and you brain by electrical wiring, if there was a system big and complex enough,I'm sure it'd be able to trasfer most if not all of your brain's data.

never said i could do it. it was just a quote. but if hes right then it would be almost impossible to convert an entire body mass into energy. i still hold to my theory that there will never be teleportation in the startrek sense, but more a transfer of conciousness

Hello
Ive been ghosting these boards for a while, and i just HAD to register to post here, it is so far, pretty interesting.

In regard to the teleportation theory, re: demoleculerisation theory, what if the matter stream becomes open (stream fails to materialise and continues to propogate throughout the universe)that the soul/spirit/whatever floats, unable to find its body, but not quite dead... never dying, trapped in limbo for all eternity (or until GOD intervenes. Maybe). Whether you are conscious or not would make the difference to mind destroying hell and a big sleep until GOD wakes you up. Maybe.

If you want to read something freaky on Teleportation, grab a copy of Stephen Kings Skeleton Crew, and read the story contained inside "The Jaunt". Its fucked up badly.

Cheers

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Damn Keyboard, Damn brain, stop forgetting things...

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Ancient One - 2 Questions
Why would you choose to come back to the third dimension? And what do "regular" people need to do to attain evolution to the higher dimensions?

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Hi Trthseeker,

Good Questions !
I ONLY chose to come here to the 3rd dimension to assist on this planet in negating the very negative influences that are STILL present as a result of the Lucifer-Satan rebellion of 250,000 years ago, that caused extreme interference with the species development of Earthlings...
It is NOT a normal occurrance for ONE like me to return to the 3rd dimension...
IT RARELY EVER HAPPENS !
There are anywhere from 200,000 to at the most 3,000,000 of ONES LIKE ME on this planet... We have been secretly with you for around 150,000 years...

At this point in time, i am revealing myself, in the real world, just as i am in this post...
I DO NOT CARE WHO KNOWS WHAT I'M ABOUT OR WHO I AM... NO EVIL EARTHLINGS OR ET's CAN STOP US...
You might say i am one of the MOST outspoken of all of us volunteers...
I speak in behalf of ALL OF US VOLUNTEERS !
WE are on DIVINE MISSIONS from GOD HIMSELF... NO POWER ON EARTH CAN INTERFERE WITH US !
WE will remain here on Earth UNTIL ALL EVIL IS REMOVED FROM THIS PLANET and Earth's 4th dimension... THIS WILL IN FACT OCCUR !
NO power on or inside Earth can prevent this !

What is NORMALLY required of ALL of GOD's children on Earth and all other planets is the SAME everywhere in creation...
Each & every one of over 6 billion Earth souls are required to make enough SOUL progress & advancement to be QUALIFIED to go on to the higher dimensions...
Each soul will continue on the wheel of life, death, astral heaven or astral hell and re-birth CYCLE, UNTIL THAT SOUL GRADUATES FROM THIS KINDERGARDEN EXPERIENCE OF BEING IN THE 3RD & 4TH DIMENSIONS !

The reason i used the word NORMALLY in my last statement is because the opportunity is drawing near for there to be a PLANETARY WIDE opportunity for ALL Earthlings to ASCEND to the 5th Dimension of the TRUE HEAVENS..
There will be a separating of Earthlings into two groups... Good people & evil people... ALL Evil ones will be removed from this planet !

The BEGINNING of the TRUE HEAVENS is in the 5th dimension...
From then on there is NO struggling, opposites, evil, pain, suffering or death !

Eternal Blessings,
&
Happy Holidays,
Ancient One

u know i heard the some of the same things come out of a crazy mans mouth anchient one. heres a challenge to u, teleport to my house since u dont care and all who knows.

"I DO NOT CARE WHO KNOWS WHAT I'M ABOUT OR WHO I AM"

theres your challenge until then u will just be passed off as some crazy person. when u show up ill believe.

if you can go thru hyperspace then why need to teleport? u will die because your body and soul need each other to live.

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Originally posted by MSW2006:
Okay, I've this new theory on teleportation: once your molecules have been decoded and are traveling through hyperspace, and you are just a bit of data, what happens if the transfer is interupted, stopped or teh ddata is destroyed? Do you cease to exist, or does your brain still work, but you have no body?

Please respond.

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assuming one has a soul

Has anyone read the Michael Chricton Book "Timeline"?

Has anyone else read "The Jaunt" short story by Stephen King??

Quoted From Ancient One: The reason i used the word NORMALLY in my last statement is because the opportunity is drawing near for there to be a PLANETARY WIDE opportunity for ALL Earthlings to ASCEND to the 5th Dimension of the TRUE HEAVENS..
There will be a separating of Earthlings into two groups... Good people & evil people... ALL Evil ones will be removed from this planet.

Thanks for responding. So does this mean that the "end of Earth as we know it" is near?

Our ancient buddy sounds like one of those people that sends spam mail.

like

I HAVE 10 million$ that i need to GET RID OF! I LIVE in AFRICA and I NEED TO get OUT of AFRICA, BECAUSE of the TRYANY! Just GIVE me YOUR bank ACCOUNT number and I WILL give you a PERCENT of my 10 MILLION $!

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Our ancient buddy sounds like one of those people that sends spam mail.

like

I HAVE 10 million$ that i need to GET RID OF! I LIVE in AFRICA and I NEED TO get OUT of AFRICA, BECAUSE of the TRYANY! Just GIVE me YOUR bank ACCOUNT number and I WILL give you a PERCENT of my 10 MILLION $!

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ahh yes ancient one, scream its called bullshit. seems like this person pulled it right out of my second ed. AD&D psionisis handbook. that chalenge still hasnt been met. u know where that person states they can teleport and they dont care who knows it. boo to u ancient one booo

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PS.. astral bodies can feel pain just like a physical body...

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NO more struggling, death, pain, suffering, you don't require food or sleep BUT you may eat or sleep if you want to... no more old age,

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You stated that on a 4th dimensional astral plane the evil ones will endure endless pain however you also say on the 4th dimensional plane there will be no pain.

If the spiritual being is on the same plane how does the plane differenciate between the two?

The closest thing I can come up with to account for an astral plane environment is the Dirac Electron Sea, whence comes virtual particles and part of the reason for Hawking Radiation in Black Holes. I think that Ancient One has simply taken several religious and scientific concepts and molded them all together around his personal viewpoint... not to mention his ego.

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[B] You stated that on a 4th dimensional astral plane the evil ones will endure endless pain however you also say on the 4th dimensional plane there will be no pain.

Hi Bangbangbooty,
You are quoting my statements regarding two separate dimensions !
One can FEEL PAIN in the 4th dimension... It is in the 5th dimension where there is NO pain, death, suffering, ect....

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

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Originally posted by trthseeker:
Quoted From Ancient One: The reason i used the word NORMALLY in my last statement is because the opportunity is drawing near for there to be a PLANETARY WIDE opportunity for ALL Earthlings to ASCEND to the 5th Dimension of the TRUE HEAVENS..
There will be a separating of Earthlings into two groups... Good people & evil people... ALL Evil ones will be removed from this planet.

Thanks for responding. So does this mean that the "end of Earth as we know it" is near?

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Hi Trthseeker,
YES.. The end of the Earth as we know it, is drawing near... I still believe it will happen in my present lifetime...
However, it will continue to get worse prior to then...

I have been reading in another discussion about different people speculating on if the human species is evolving..
Earthlings are a VERY young species, even in this galaxy..
When the planetary-wide opportunity for Earthlings to ascend to the 5th dimension takes place, then Earthlings will take a QUANTUM LEAP in species evolvement at that time..

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

PS.. Trthseeker, you will notice that i do take the time to answer your posts AND the posts of anyone that ASK INTELLIGENT QUESTIONS !

PSS...You will also notice i DO NOT respond to the stupid and ignorant comments made by some VERY BACKWARD people, who post to me..
THOSE POOR MIS-GUIDED SOULS ARE JUST DISPLAYING THEIR IGNORANCE !
They are very young im-mature souls and they are probably living their very 1st lifetime..

I DO NOT MAKE MY POSTS FOR IGNORANT ONES SUCH AS THAT !
It's people like you that i post for !

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It is in the 5th dimension where there is NO pain, death, suffering, ect....

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

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Thankyou Ancient One for clearing that up about the 4th and 5th astral planes.

Now i would like to ask your help. I have finished my time here on Earth. Now if i shot myself in the head would i be guaranteed passage to the 5th plane?

I have not killed anyone or caused needless harm to souls, i appreciate your knowledge and i feel only you can answer my question.

Can i go to the 5th plane if i pull the trigger now?

Please i need a reply

u sure can and if u act now u can get this free toaster oven!

this is heavy science

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Originally posted by bangbangbooty:
Thankyou Ancient One for clearing that up about the 4th and 5th astral planes.

Now i would like to ask your help. I have finished my time here on Earth. Now if i shot myself in the head would i be guaranteed passage to the 5th plane?

I have not killed anyone or caused needless harm to souls, i appreciate your knowledge and i feel only you can answer my question.

Can i go to the 5th plane if i pull the trigger now?

Please i need a reply

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Hi Bangbangbooty,

NO... You will NOT go to the HEAVENS of the 5th dimension by pulling the trigger !

ALL LIFE IS SACRED TO THE CREATOR!
There is ALMOST always, penalties and bad consequences for taking oneself out !
You would almost certainly SEND YOURSELF TO A TERRIBLE ASTRAL HELL by pulling the trigger !
Unfortunately, once someone kills themself, it's TOO LATE to change your mind, once you EXPERIENCE the consequences !

Incidentally, if you had already made enough spirtual advancement to ascend to the HEAVENS of the 5th dimension... YOU WOULD NOT NEED TO GO THROUGH A DEATH PROCESS TO ASCEND !
YOU WOULD ASCEND WHILE STILL ALIVE... ONE DOES NOT HAVE TO DIE TO ASCEND TO HEAVEN !
[ Bear in mind that this RARELY EVER occurs ]

PS...PLEASE feel free to send me a PRIVATE e-mail !

Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One

Hi Ancient One, always good to get your responses. Another question for you, If God is all knowing then why wasn't Lucifer's betrayal nipped in the bud?

my guess is since lucifer was the first he was made equil. thats the reason why theres a stalemate. think about it if u were lonely and u could creat anything wouldnt u create an equil.

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Originally posted by trthseeker:
Hi Ancient One, always good to get your responses. Another question for you, If God is all knowing then why wasn't Lucifer's betrayal nipped in the bud?

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Hi Trthseeker,
You asked another good question.... :-)

GOD could have nipped the Lucifer/Satan rebellion in the bud, at the instant it started, if GOD had chosen to do so.. Actually GOD PERMITTED Lucifer & Satan to exercise their free wills....
BUT ONLY for about 50,000 years...
The Lucifer/Satan rebellion occurred around 250,000 years ago!

LUCIFER & SATAN ARE NOT RUNNING RAMPANT ON THIS PLANET OR ANY PLANET, SINCE THEY WERE PUT IN SPIRTUAL LOCKDOWN 200,000 years ago !
Their capability to do or encourage evil was nullified by GOD !
They are in a situation similar to death row in an Earth prison!

All these foolish Earthlings who think that Satan is wispering in their ear are NOT HEARING LUCIFER OR SATAN !
All those foolish Eartlings who think they will reign in hell with Lucifer & Satan... ARE DEAD WRONG !

BECAUSE Lucifer & Satan are AWAITING THEIR SOUL EXECUTION and that shall be the fate of their followers on Earth !
This shall occur after the 2nd COMING of GOD !
Until THEN astral hells will exist in the 4th dimension ( astral plane )

Eternal Blessings
Ancient One

bleh, your saying u know what god did and why god did it? thats like an ant trying to comprehend what einstien was thinking.

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Originally posted by Das Troll:
bleh, your saying u know what god did and why god did it? thats like an ant trying to comprehend what einstien was thinking.

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Das Troll,

FOR THE VERY 1ST TIME IN ALL YOUR POSTS TO ME.... You actually got something correct... IN-SO MUCH AS THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT I WAS SAYING ! ( what GOD did & why GOD did it )

You muust be an ANT by your own comments !
Since i DO comprehend something BEYOND your ANT comprehension !

LOL... You have about as much spirtual understanding & knowledge as an ANT or some other LOWER form of life !
You obviously are a BRAND NEW soul !
This must be your VERY 1st lifetime, as REFLECTED in ALMOST ALL of your rather FOOLISH responses to MOST of my postings !

BELIEVE ME... I was NOT posting anything to you personally, EXCEPT THIS POST !

MY POSTS ARE DIRECTED TO MUCH OLDER SOULS THAN YOU !
Ones who are actually seeking HIGHER TRUTH than what's put out to the MASSES !
Ones who are at least OPEN to CONSIDERING what i say as truth !

I said in my VERY 1st post on the TOTSE FORUM that if ANYONE doesn't believe anything i say THAT they should regard my posts as entertainment!
SOMEHOW THAT STATEMENT MUST HAVE BEEN OVER YOUR HEAD !
If you personally are not entertained, thats your problem !
THEN DON'T READ ANY MORE OF MY POSTS !

I Won't Wish You Eternal Blessings,
Ancient One