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Old 2008-12-30, 00:59
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Default Russian Prof. Predicts End of US

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html

"Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces -- with Alaska reverting to Russian control."



"In September 1998, he attended a conference in Linz, Austria, devoted to information warfare, the use of data to get an edge over a rival. It was there, in front of 400 fellow delegates, that he first presented his theory about the collapse of the U.S. in 2010.
"When I pushed the button on my computer and the map of the United States disintegrated, hundreds of people cried out in surprise," he remembers. He says most in the audience were skeptical. "They didn't believe me."
At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismembered U.S.
He based the forecast on classified data supplied to him by FAPSI analysts, he says. He predicts that economic, financial and demographic trends will provoke a political and social crisis in the U.S. When the going gets tough, he says, wealthier states will withhold funds from the federal government and effectively secede from the union. Social unrest up to and including a civil war will follow. The U.S. will then split along ethnic lines, and foreign powers will move in.
California will form the nucleus of what he calls "The Californian Republic," and will be part of China or under Chinese influence. Texas will be the heart of "The Texas Republic," a cluster of states that will go to Mexico or fall under Mexican influence. Washington, D.C., and New York will be part of an "Atlantic America" that may join the European Union. Canada will grab a group of Northern states Prof. Panarin calls "The Central North American Republic." Hawaii, he suggests, will be a protectorate of Japan or China, and Alaska will be subsumed into Russia"

"The professor says he's convinced that people are taking his theory more seriously. People like him have forecast similar cataclysms before, he says, and been right. He cites French political scientist Emmanuel Todd. Mr. Todd is famous for having rightly forecast the demise of the Soviet Union -- 15 years beforehand. "When he forecast the collapse of the Soviet Union in 1976, people laughed at him," says Prof. Panarin."


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Old 2008-12-30, 02:50
BobapanBeers BobapanBeers is offline
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bah...

that didn't happen in 1929 and won't happen in 2010 either!
If america goes down due to the financial situation, the rest of the world is likely to follow.

Entertaining article though
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Old 2008-12-30, 05:25
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I wonder what he thinks will become of the native american reservations.

Also, a huge issue in the southwest is water rights. Most of our water -- for several huge cities out here, including the San Andreas cities, Phoenix, and Las Vegas -- come from Rocky Mountain runoff, and is distributed via the Hoover.
That's just one example of how a civil war just wouldn't happen out here. We need each other.
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Old 2008-12-30, 15:40
steve-o13 steve-o13 is offline
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Fuck Russia. We want Alaska, it's right there anyways. I will see to it personally that there will never be any Ruskies on our land. Madmad:
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Old 2008-12-31, 07:34
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Originally Posted by steve-o13
Fuck Russia. We want Alaska, it's right there anyways. I will see to it personally that there will never be any Ruskies on our land. Madmad:



Thats the spirit, my fellow compatriot!
 #6 
Old 2008-12-31, 19:43
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That's absolutely ridiculous. It's perhaps not completely inconceivable, but it won't happen by 2010. And what is this "may join the European Union" crap? I believe it's very clearly outlined that a EU member state has to be at least partially geographically contained in traditionally-defined Europe, or be an overseas territory or dependency. And why does Canada get all the shitty midwest states? Bah. Oh, and we're taking Alaska.
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Old 2008-12-31, 21:29
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I'd like to see this happen if only to watch the Russians and Canadians bicker over Alaska.
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Old 2008-12-31, 23:06
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I wish we would go back to the days of the wild west. Open the borders and let anyone in. Let it become an anarchic dystopia where Indians tread along the desert in their jeeps, swinging the skulls of white women tied to elephant penis rope and howling at the moon.
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Old 2009-01-01, 06:37
Rocko Rocko is offline
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I'm sorry, are we caring what the Russians say now? I mean, their country ACTUALLY collapsed.
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Old 2009-01-01, 23:38
BobapanBeers BobapanBeers is offline
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I'm sorry, are we caring what the Russians say now? I mean, their country ACTUALLY collapsed.


Welcome to 1997! Many things have changed in 12 years. Just to be sure you should go to Moscow and scream that in the street just to see how long you'll last.
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Old 2009-01-02, 00:18
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Originally Posted by Rocko
I'm sorry, are we caring what the Russians say now? I mean, their country ACTUALLY collapsed.


Russia has energy; plentiful natural resources. Energy in the modern era equals power.
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Old 2009-01-02, 00:46
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Welcome to 1997! Many things have changed in 12 years. Just to be sure you should go to Moscow and scream that in the street just to see how long you'll last.

You could do the same in Liberia and you would be riddled with bullet holes in a matter of seconds; that doesn't mean Liberia is a superpower. Russia is a fucking joke of a nation, they are dirt poor. It doesn't matter if they have all of the oil in the fucking world, they have never in history been able to maintain anything but a working class, greased metal on metal industry society. They are fucking genetically engineered drunks, who the fuck cares about them.
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Old 2009-01-02, 11:12
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I'm sure this goofy russian man can predict the future affairs of an entire country.
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Old 2009-01-02, 18:46
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Russians are stupid, smelly and are second to Jews in terms of overall ugliness. However, I hope this does happen!
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Old 2009-01-02, 20:33
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Let it become an anarchic dystopia where Indians tread along the desert in their jeeps, swinging the skulls of white women tied to elephant penis rope and howling at the moon.

yes, this is what we need. I shall declare myself Supreme Emperor of Central North America and we will pillage the reminisce of the Obama administration and anyone else who doesn't agree with the rules of the new world.
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Old 2009-01-12, 17:45
BlackopsNinja BlackopsNinja is offline
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i fall under canada control. better than eu mx or rus i guess but still, this scenario is unlikely to happen, ever.
 #17 
Old 2009-01-13, 01:55
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Why the fuck would it happen exactly like that?
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Old 2009-01-13, 02:07
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Originally Posted by Martian Luger King
I wish we would go back to the days of the wild west. Open the borders and let anyone in. Let it become an anarchic dystopia where Indians tread along the desert in their jeeps, swinging the skulls of white women tied to elephant penis rope and howling at the moon.


Ah yes, a return to the days when the American Elephants roamed the plains, killing buffalo in a single stroke of penis.
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Old 2009-01-13, 02:31
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hardtown, hardstate, hardnation
Default Re: Russian Prof. Predicts End of US

Here's a theory that will actually come true- Europe will move onto alternative energy sources and will no longer have a need for Russia's natural gas exports. Russia will then turn into a shithole like it was back in the Perestroika days.
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Old 2009-01-13, 03:12
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Originally Posted by HARDMAN
Here's a theory that will actually come true- Europe will move onto alternative energy sources and will no longer have a need for Russia's natural gas exports. Russia will then turn into a shithole like it was back in the Perestroika days.


Erm, weren't the perestroika days just the whipped-cream-&-cherry-on-top to the backwards shit of the past 80 years?

Anyways, the professor's idea is bull. The country's regions are all interdependent, and could not function without each other. The man cites "moral degradation" and "immigration" as the top reasons for the collapse of the nation. Please...
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Old 2009-01-14, 18:14
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He seems to have just divided things according to naked eye geography. Like, "oh look how close Alaska is to Russia, ya that means Russia gets Alaska...and the west coast, well, that'll go to China since it's just across the ocean."

And what does he mean, states withholding funding from the federal government? States rely on the federal government for a lot of funding, not the other way around. If there was a huge crisis going on, I'd think it would bring America closer together, to try and make us stronger and better able to deal with it. A state or region would be retarded for leaving the country and cutting everyone else off.
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Old 2009-01-16, 13:20
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I say let the bastards have Alaska; only first I wanna see a functional toaster. That means, yes folks, one that WILL NOT explode and cause a house fire.
 
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