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| Mad Scientists Science and Mathematics discussion-- theories, arguments, citations, proofs and pudding. |
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#1
 2008-11-27, 02:49
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rtb91 
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Crows dropping nuts
I just received my IB grade 12 IA today after being sick all last week and Monday. Needless to say it is due on Friday
http://teacher.ocps.net/joel.brielmaier/Calc/ib%20portfolios/crows%20and%20nuts.pdf
If anyone can help me find the proper equations to perfectly explain this graph I would be eternally grateful.
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#2
 2008-11-27, 04:44
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Re: Crows dropping nuts
Use excel to plot the points.
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#3
 2008-11-27, 07:29
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xarf 
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Re: Crows dropping nuts
I'm guessing that it's going to take the form 1/x.
Why? Well, a certain force is required to break the nuts. If you drop something from x times as high, it will hit the ground with x times as much kinetic energy, and given that it has to stop in a fairly small, fairly fixed distance the average force of impact will be about x times as much. I'm guessing this means the probability of it not breaking on a given drop divides by x, so it will require 1/x times as many drops to break it on average.
But you should plot the data and make sureĀI could be totally wrong.
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#4
 2008-11-27, 12:08
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Re: Crows dropping nuts
Where h=height, I found that graphing 1/(h-1)^2 against the number of drops gave a pretty straight line for the Large nuts.
But it looks like there is a minimum force required to damage the nut, so below a certain distance there is not damage at all.
You can find out the impact velocity and KE at impact using basic physics, but you said this was a maths class, yes?
Also, you could say what sort of stuff you missed last week....
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