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| Mad Scientists Science and Mathematics discussion-- theories, arguments, citations, proofs and pudding. |
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#1
 2008-11-15, 20:41
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twotimintim 
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Fake Diamonds
I am doing a research paper on fake diamonds, (man made) I was wondering if anyone knew of any cool sources!
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#2
 2008-11-16, 01:19
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Chupacabre 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
http://tinyurl.com/1c2
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#3
 2008-11-16, 10:42
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Mantikore 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
referral links on wikipedia
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#4
 2008-11-16, 21:36
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Re: Fake Diamonds
Only because I just saw this: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16036-artificial-diamonds--now-available-in-extra-large.html. I wouldn't use it as a direct source though.
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#5
 2008-11-16, 22:03
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twotimintim 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
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Originally Posted by Real.PUA
Only because I just saw this: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16036-artificial-diamonds--now-available-in-extra-large.html. I wouldn't use it as a direct source though.
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Thanks Real!
this site may not have been a good source, but if you go to that guy's website he has his presentation up there on the subject, which would work.
saweet
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#6
 2008-11-18, 08:06
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......oo00ooo<
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Re: Fake Diamonds
As far as I'm aware, man-made diamonds are real diamonds. They just aren't formed by natural processes.
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#7
 2008-11-18, 11:26
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twotimintim 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
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Originally Posted by Clarphimous
As far as I'm aware, man-made diamonds are real diamonds. They just aren't formed by natural processes.
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You are correct, but the word fake, immediately suggests that they were created. They share the same carbon crystal structure as naturally formed diamonds^^
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#8
 2008-11-18, 15:46
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Mantikore 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
im pretty sure in the jewelery industry, there is a difference between fake diamonds and artficial diamons.
fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all
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#9
 2008-11-21, 09:19
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run while you can ----->
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Re: Fake Diamonds
^ They mean fake diamonds as in the ones made in a lab
All we need is a microwave, some hydrogen, gaseous carbon, and an oxy acetylene torch.
microwave+hydrogen = hydrogen plasma
Gaseous carbon gets deposited to make the diamond
Oxy torch to get temps higher then 2200C
hmm.....
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#10
 2008-11-21, 12:18
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twotimintim 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
what kind of pressure would u use with your oxy torch, carbon as diamonds is metastable, you'd need the pressure to not get graphite
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#11
 2008-11-21, 17:01
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Re: Fake Diamonds
fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all
i think cubic zirconia is a diamond or crystal, just not a very precious one. i may be wrong, but im more than 50% sure.
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#12
 2008-11-21, 17:33
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master killer 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
i think cubic zirconia is a diamond or crystal, just not a very precious one. i may be wrong, but im more than 50% sure.
It's not a diamond. It's Zirconium Dioxide in cubic crystalline form.
There are VERY important differences between Cubic Zirconia and diamonds.
Just so you know, zirconia is a thermical insulator, whereas diamonds are conductors. (if this isn't an important difference kick me)
So, kids:
Zirconia =/= Diamonds

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#13
 2008-11-22, 05:55
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Re: Fake Diamonds
They should be called lab diamonds, or man-made, but definitely not fake. Only debeers et al want them to be considered fake so that they can keep controlling the price of worthless rocks and convincing millions of morons that they don't love their partner if they don't buy one.
They are the exact same thing as diamonds that are excavated, only they have less imperfections.
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#14
 2008-11-25, 04:46
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Re: Fake Diamonds
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Originally Posted by Zay
They should be called lab diamonds, or man-made, but definitely not fake. Only debeers et al want them to be considered fake so that they can keep controlling the price of worthless rocks and convincing millions of morons that they don't love their partner if they don't buy one.
They are the exact same thing as diamonds that are excavated, only they have less imperfections.
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I learned that from watching JAG.
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#15
 2008-11-25, 05:59
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eesakiwi 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
If you want to see a huge diamond.
Go into a large machinery dealers place & ask about a 'Diamond tipped stone dresser'
& I read somewhere that they are going to use diamonds as a heatsink under computer chips.
They draw off the heat better than anything else & are also non conductive to electricity.
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#16
 2008-11-27, 12:19
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Re: Fake Diamonds
I think synthetic diamond is the best term to use.
But seriously, listen to Mantikore and especially Chupacabre...
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#17
 2008-11-28, 09:59
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Quageschi 
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Re: Fake Diamonds
http://www.apollodiamond.com/
ask them for some info
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#18
 2008-12-03, 04:58
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Re: Fake Diamonds
Check out Moissanite, SiC hexagonal crystal. Looks even better than a diamond.
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#19
 2008-12-03, 23:05
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Re: Fake Diamonds
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Originally Posted by Mantikore
im pretty sure in the jewelery industry, there is a difference between fake diamonds and artficial diamons.
fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all
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Yeah, what they said--there is a world of difference between "fake" and "synthetic."
OP, you might want to look into the company that makes diamonds out of cremains.
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