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 #1 
Old 2008-11-15, 20:41
twotimintim twotimintim is offline
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Default Fake Diamonds

I am doing a research paper on fake diamonds, (man made) I was wondering if anyone knew of any cool sources!
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Old 2008-11-16, 01:19
Chupacabre Chupacabre is offline
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http://tinyurl.com/1c2
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Old 2008-11-16, 10:42
Mantikore Mantikore is offline
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referral links on wikipedia
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Old 2008-11-16, 21:36
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Only because I just saw this: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16036-artificial-diamonds--now-available-in-extra-large.html. I wouldn't use it as a direct source though.
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Old 2008-11-16, 22:03
twotimintim twotimintim is offline
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Originally Posted by Real.PUA
Only because I just saw this: http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn16036-artificial-diamonds--now-available-in-extra-large.html. I wouldn't use it as a direct source though.



Thanks Real!

this site may not have been a good source, but if you go to that guy's website he has his presentation up there on the subject, which would work.

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Old 2008-11-18, 08:06
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As far as I'm aware, man-made diamonds are real diamonds. They just aren't formed by natural processes.
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Old 2008-11-18, 11:26
twotimintim twotimintim is offline
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Originally Posted by Clarphimous
As far as I'm aware, man-made diamonds are real diamonds. They just aren't formed by natural processes.



You are correct, but the word fake, immediately suggests that they were created. They share the same carbon crystal structure as naturally formed diamonds^^
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Old 2008-11-18, 15:46
Mantikore Mantikore is offline
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im pretty sure in the jewelery industry, there is a difference between fake diamonds and artficial diamons.

fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all
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Old 2008-11-21, 09:19
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^ They mean fake diamonds as in the ones made in a lab

All we need is a microwave, some hydrogen, gaseous carbon, and an oxy acetylene torch.

microwave+hydrogen = hydrogen plasma
Gaseous carbon gets deposited to make the diamond
Oxy torch to get temps higher then 2200C


hmm.....
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Old 2008-11-21, 12:18
twotimintim twotimintim is offline
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what kind of pressure would u use with your oxy torch, carbon as diamonds is metastable, you'd need the pressure to not get graphite
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Old 2008-11-21, 17:01
speters17 speters17 is offline
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fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all

i think cubic zirconia is a diamond or crystal, just not a very precious one. i may be wrong, but im more than 50% sure.
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Old 2008-11-21, 17:33
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i think cubic zirconia is a diamond or crystal, just not a very precious one. i may be wrong, but im more than 50% sure.

It's not a diamond. It's Zirconium Dioxide in cubic crystalline form.
There are VERY important differences between Cubic Zirconia and diamonds.
Just so you know, zirconia is a thermical insulator, whereas diamonds are conductors. (if this isn't an important difference kick me)

So, kids:


Zirconia =/= Diamonds


Mad
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Old 2008-11-22, 05:55
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They should be called lab diamonds, or man-made, but definitely not fake. Only debeers et al want them to be considered fake so that they can keep controlling the price of worthless rocks and convincing millions of morons that they don't love their partner if they don't buy one.

They are the exact same thing as diamonds that are excavated, only they have less imperfections.
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Old 2008-11-25, 04:46
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Originally Posted by Zay
They should be called lab diamonds, or man-made, but definitely not fake. Only debeers et al want them to be considered fake so that they can keep controlling the price of worthless rocks and convincing millions of morons that they don't love their partner if they don't buy one.

They are the exact same thing as diamonds that are excavated, only they have less imperfections.


I learned that from watching JAG.
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Old 2008-11-25, 05:59
eesakiwi eesakiwi is offline
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If you want to see a huge diamond.
Go into a large machinery dealers place & ask about a 'Diamond tipped stone dresser'

& I read somewhere that they are going to use diamonds as a heatsink under computer chips.
They draw off the heat better than anything else & are also non conductive to electricity.
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Old 2008-11-27, 12:19
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I think synthetic diamond is the best term to use.

But seriously, listen to Mantikore and especially Chupacabre...
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Old 2008-11-28, 09:59
Quageschi Quageschi is offline
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http://www.apollodiamond.com/

ask them for some info
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Old 2008-12-03, 04:58
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Check out Moissanite, SiC hexagonal crystal. Looks even better than a diamond.
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Old 2008-12-03, 23:05
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Originally Posted by Mantikore
im pretty sure in the jewelery industry, there is a difference between fake diamonds and artficial diamons.

fake diamonds are cubic zirconia, which isnt diamond at all


Yeah, what they said--there is a world of difference between "fake" and "synthetic."

OP, you might want to look into the company that makes diamonds out of cremains.
 
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