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 #1 
Old 2008-11-12, 22:32
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Vulgaria
Default how do i cure AIDs?

I've decided to cure AIDs. With some luck I'll get it done by Monday. So, how do I do it? i have an abacus and i read a whole page on wiki about AIDs, so it cant be that hard right?
 #2 
Old 2008-11-12, 23:30
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Well, is it by chance an antiretroviral abacus? If so, try dialing in 42. I'm pretty sure that's the answer. I'll Google to double-check.
 #3 
Old 2008-11-13, 01:08
CaptainCanada CaptainCanada is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Don't have sex with black people.
 #4 
Old 2008-11-13, 02:37
starjones starjones is offline
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dude
cure for aids:

take all aids infected people and put them on an island. anyone caught let them live their a sterilize them so they cant breed. anyone who does not willingly submit themselves to the government will be punished by death. immediately.

then make sure nobody leaves the island and tell them that anyone who even comes within a stones throw of the beach will be killed. and plant land mines everywhere.

obviously this will not cure aids fast, but neither will an actual "cure".

more than likely, this will be the fastest way.

and also, like CaptainCanada said:
dont have sex with black people.


it is just that simple. i think i could probably get an honorary degree from harvard just for this post.

like dethklock
 #5 
Old 2008-11-13, 03:09
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by starjones
dude
cure for aids:

take all aids infected people and put them on an island. anyone caught let them live their a sterilize them so they cant breed. anyone who does not willingly submit themselves to the government will be punished by death. immediately.

then make sure nobody leaves the island and tell them that anyone who even comes within a stones throw of the beach will be killed. and plant land mines everywhere.

obviously this will not cure aids fast, but neither will an actual "cure".

more than likely, this will be the fastest way.

and also, like CaptainCanada said:
dont have sex with black people.


it is just that simple. i think i could probably get an honorary degree from harvard just for this post.

like dethklock


It can be spread through all bodily fluids, not just semen. Strictly speaking, the fastest way would be to kill all of the infected, and dispose of their bodies very carefully. Last year's debate topic had to do with AIDS and stuff in Sub-Saharan Africa, and one of the most effective negative counterplans is to not help Africa, and to let the infected die. It was based on Malthus and his thoughts on overpopulation. We took second at state, that was my novice year.
 #6 
Old 2008-11-14, 05:15
is missing is missing is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Well AIDS is just a syndrome that results from HIV. So really you need to eradicate HIV to cure AIDS. The best way to eradicate a virus? Inoculation! How do we inoculate people against HIV? A vaccine! Where do we get this vaccine? We would have to make it.

Commonly, you do this by taking a sample of the virus, attenuating or killing it, and then sticking it in someone so their immune system can create antibodies for it. That way, if a live, dangerous version of the virus ever infects them (in the case of HIV: gay sechs), their body instantly recognizes and kills it.

The reason we've sucked giant dick at doing this for HIV so far is that:



It's extremely prone to mutation and,
The part of the virus that the immune system needs to recognize (the epitope) varies too widely.

My solution to this problem is to genetically engineer a new version of HIV to do two things: compete with the old version for infective control of the host (the new version would obviously be designed to, you know, win), and infect the host cell through a known and replicable cellular receptor. Once the new HIV has replaced the old HIV in the host, we then synthesize an agent that mimics the cellular receptor it binds with, and treat the patient with that. The new (and only present) HIV starts binding with the agent instead of the host cell, is unable to replicate, and tada - dies off.

Looks like I beat you to it, OP.
 #7 
Old 2008-11-15, 20:44
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Vulgaria
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Can crabs get AIDs?
 #8 
Old 2008-11-16, 08:42
lan_rogers_book lan_rogers_book is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Long boring and un-important answer:
Well AIDS is just a syndrome that results from HIV. So really you need to eradicate HIV to cure AIDS. The best way to eradicate a virus? Inoculation! How do we inoculate people against HIV? A vaccine! Where do we get this vaccine? We would have to make it.

Commonly, you do this by taking a sample of the virus, attenuating or killing it, and then sticking it in someone so their immune system can create antibodies for it. That way, if a live, dangerous version of the virus ever infects them (in the case of HIV: gay sechs), their body instantly recognizes and kills it.

The reason we've sucked giant dick at doing this for HIV so far is that:

1. It's extremely prone to mutation and,
2. The part of the virus that the immune system needs to recognize (the epitope) varies too widely.

My solution to this problem is to genetically engineer a new version of HIV to do two things: compete with the old version for infective control of the host (the new version would obviously be designed to, you know, win), and infect the host cell through a known and replicable cellular receptor. Once the new HIV has replaced the old HIV in the host, we then synthesize an agent that mimics the cellular receptor it binds with, and treat the patient with that. The new (and only present) HIV starts binding with the agent instead of the host cell, is unable to replicate, and tada - dies off.

Looks like I beat you to it, OP.

Cool answer
Don't have sex with black people.
 #9 
Old 2008-11-17, 06:19
sss3d sss3d is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

fuck yourself
 #10 
Old 2008-11-18, 22:59
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Vulgaria
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Cured it.
 #11 
Old 2008-11-18, 23:26
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Cured it.

Thank god! We've finally put an end to Anally Injected Death Sentence!
 #12 
Old 2008-11-22, 06:13
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

how do i cured AIDs?

Fixed.
 #13 
Old 2008-11-22, 06:29
Eldorhan Eldorhan is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

It has been cured already.

Germans, with evil nazi technology fo' sho'.
 #14 
Old 2008-11-22, 06:31
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Yami no tensai
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Well AIDS is just a syndrome that results from HIV. So really you need to eradicate HIV to cure AIDS. The best way to eradicate a virus? Inoculation! How do we inoculate people against HIV? A vaccine! Where do we get this vaccine? We would have to make it.

This shit will never work.

The way AIDS works is by stealthing itself and destroying your T cells that identify what to attack, so it eats your immune system and then you're completely defenseless to anything that comes at you.

Even if a vaccine somehow could work, it only protects against the particular strain of the virus you're vaccinating against since AIDS keeps mutating and evolving.
 #15 
Old 2008-11-22, 06:35
Pringles Pringles is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Fuck yourself a couple of times. The cure for HIV and AIDS is a bullet of a 44 mag or two .357 magnums in the head.
 #16 
Old 2008-11-22, 07:02
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

We need to genetically modify all future generations with much more selective T-cell receptors so that the virus is not allowed into the cell (or the nucleus, though that would be harder). That or prevent Rev from bonding to viral RNA, which is not likely to happen.
 #17 
Old 2008-11-22, 07:30
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Yami no tensai
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

he cure for HIV and AIDS is a bullet of a 44 mag or two .357 magnums in the head.

Or a single .50 AE round.

People talk about expensive cures for disease and shit. Fuck that. A few dollars can produce a universal cure to any problem you may face. You'll only have to use it once.
 #18 
Old 2008-11-22, 16:05
contactwhall contactwhall is offline
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^your so intelligent
 #19 
Old 2008-11-22, 18:08
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

^You're so using the wrong word.
 #20 
Old 2008-11-22, 18:20
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a.K.a Dfg (PK)
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

OP, Fuck a Virgin!

you will need atleast 3x virgins to cure AIDS, i am not joking this really works ask any nigger in Africa they love it.


Rape if you must!
 #21 
Old 2008-11-22, 20:45
deckstore deckstore is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

there is a cure but it kills everything including good human cells
barbers use it to clean there combs and such
 #22 
Old 2008-11-22, 20:55
is missing is missing is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

This shit will never work.

The way AIDS works is by stealthing itself and destroying your T cells that identify what to attack, so it eats your immune system and then you're completely defenseless to anything that comes at you.

Even if a vaccine somehow could work, it only protects against the particular strain of the virus you're vaccinating against since AIDS keeps mutating and evolving.

Yes, I went on to talk about that in the rest of my post.
 #23 
Old 2008-11-22, 23:44
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by deckstore
there is a cure but it kills everything including good human cells
barbers use it to clean there combs and such


Wiki says:

Barbicide is an EPA-approved hospital disinfectant. It is a germicide, pseudomonacide, fungicide, and viricide. In addition, it kills the HIV-1 virus (AIDS virus), Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis C.


Looks like Barbicide beat everyone to it.

And I didn't believe your post at first.
 #24 
Old 2008-11-22, 23:54
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Barbicide is an EPA-approved hospital disinfectant. It is a germicide, pseudomonacide, fungicide, and viricide. In addition, it kills the HIV-1 virus (AIDS virus), Hepatitis B, and Hepatitis C.

Oh barbicide, is there anything you can't do?
 #25 
Old 2008-11-22, 23:59
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Oh barbicide, is there anything you can't do?

Act as a refreshment.
 #26 
Old 2008-11-23, 03:45
Subversion Subversion is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

No, the ultimate cure for AIDs is, to go claim temporary insanity and go on a massive killing spree of all "infected", so basically pull a high-tech version of what the nazi party did, then we will be all good
 #27 
Old 2008-11-23, 11:08
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Yami no tensai
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Yes, I went on to talk about that in the rest of my post.

The problem with your AIDS is that it would have to stop the original AIDS (which we'll call GRIDS to prevent confusion) from infecting any cells instead of cohabitating with it. The only way that would work is if it either destroyed all the host cells before GRIDS did, meaning you didn't have GRIDS prior to getting AIDS, in which case you've just infected yourself with a lethal virus for no reason; or if it actively attacked GRIDS so there would only be AIDS. The problem is that both viruses are subject to mutation. All you would likely end up doing is creating 2 mutant viruses that both destroy the host immune system and resist countermeasures.

Protease inhibitors actually work better than what you've proposed because they block the GRIDS virus from being able to jack into a host cell altogether, although GRIDS has evolved around this as well. It's a biological arms race and we're always at a disadvantage.
 #28 
Old 2008-11-25, 04:43
red_eyed_wonda red_eyed_wonda is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

aids has been cured (or at the very least, treated and stopped from replicating the hiv). there are people out there that are naturally resistant, and with a bone marrow transplant, people with aids produced immune cells that dont get the hiv. still in the progress of working on it, but its been helping.


http://www.reuters.com/article/healthNews/idUSTRE4AC07O20081113

"BERLIN (Reuters) - A bone marrow transplant using stem cells from a donor with natural genetic resistance to the AIDS virus has left an HIV patient free of infection for nearly two years, German researchers.

The patient, an American living in Berlin, was infected with the human immunodeficiency virus that causes AIDS and also had leukemia. The best treatment for the leukemia was a bone marrow transplant, which takes the stem cells from a healthy donor's immune system to replace the patient's cancer-ridden cells.

Dr. Gero Hutter and Thomas Schneider of the Clinic for Gastroenterology, Infections and Rheumatology of the Berlin Charite hospital said on Wednesday the team sought a bone marrow donor who had a genetic mutation known to help the body resist AIDS infection"
 #29 
Old 2008-11-25, 08:42
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Yami no tensai
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Yeah, there's a mutation one guy had that made his cell receptors completely bald so that the virus had nothing to jack into. He could carry the virus, but it would never reproduce in his system nor would it harm him.

Of course the chance of having that mutation are mind-bogglingly low.
 #30 
Old 2008-11-25, 12:48
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Eh
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

It's a mutation in the CCR5 co-receptor and while it's not common, especially in specific populations, it is actually not incredibly rare.

http://microbiology.suite101.com/article.cfm/hiv_protection

Also, while stem cell transplantation may work, it's definitely not a workable solution as an AIDS treatment for the general population.
 #31 
Old 2008-11-26, 02:49
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Florida
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Stop Having Butt Seks

lulz ..Noob.


Anyways they found the cure for the gays........
 #32 
Old 2008-11-27, 12:19
Nohan Nohan is offline
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Strengthen T Cells with Amino Nerve Cell 'steroids'.
 #33 
Old 2008-11-27, 12:28
ganjaninja ganjaninja is offline
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in before garlic and beetroot
 #34 
Old 2008-11-30, 01:46
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Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Quote:
Originally Posted by starjones
dude
cure for aids:

take all aids infected people and put them on an island. anyone caught let them live their a sterilize them so they cant breed. anyone who does not willingly submit themselves to the government will be punished by death. immediately.

then make sure nobody leaves the island and tell them that anyone who even comes within a stones throw of the beach will be killed. and plant land mines everywhere.

obviously this will not cure aids fast, but neither will an actual "cure".

more than likely, this will be the fastest way.

and also, like CaptainCanada said:
dont have sex with black people.


it is just that simple. i think i could probably get an honorary degree from harvard just for this post.

like dethklock


better yet find 2 island far away from all places people live and put the girls with aids on one island and boys with aids on one island (so they can't breed) put a globe around the island with one entrance at the very top with a door with a big padlock on it take all weapons from the people and then have armed men in helicopters watch the entrances and if you find more people with aids but them in there.
 #35 
Old 2008-12-02, 04:44
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Sitting on a dildo chair
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

Play the waiting game.

In Time all the homosexuals and fornicators will die off, and God will have his day.
 #36 
Old 2008-12-02, 05:04
Telephoneman Telephoneman is offline
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People will always butt-fuck monkeys. The only cure is to nuke Africa.
 #37 
Old 2008-12-11, 05:01
ganjaninja ganjaninja is offline
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whut about da savannah
 #38 
Old 2008-12-11, 06:02
Telephoneman Telephoneman is offline
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Thats why we got zoos
 #39 
Old 2008-12-11, 17:09
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Reading Pa USA
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nanomachines
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Old 2008-12-16, 04:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Satans Handicapped Helper
I've decided to cure AIDs. With some luck I'll get it done by Monday. So, how do I do it? i have an abacus and i read a whole page on wiki about AIDs, so it cant be that hard right?


That's some might-fine trollin, there.
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Old 2008-12-16, 06:59
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Utah: Mountains, Mormons, Meth
Default Re: how do i cure AIDs?

That's some might-fine trollin, there.

No it is terrible trolling. Everyone knows SHH doesn't make serious threads.
 
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