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 #1 
Old 2008-06-25, 02:03
Drewski Drewski is offline
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Default Necronomicon: Any truth to it?

Most of what I've ready says that the Necronomicon is PURE fiction.

A few things I've read say it may be based on a real book...

Is there any truth to this book? If so where do I get the "real" version?

If not, is there some sort of similar book I can obtain?
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Old 2008-06-25, 03:36
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A friend of mine owns the Necronomicon. I'll post a better reply after I borrow and read it. I'll put some pics and shit up too.
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Old 2008-06-25, 13:34
Drewski Drewski is offline
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Sounds interesting, thanks.
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Old 2008-06-25, 13:45
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It could be a while but I'll bump this thread when I get a hold of it.
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Old 2008-06-25, 15:59
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you mean the book written by abdul alzahred? Who was, in fact, a creation of HP lovecraft?
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Old 2008-06-25, 18:13
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you mean the book written by abdul alzahred? Who was, in fact, a creation of HP lovecraft?


Indeed. And any "real" books so titled are just an attempt to scam the public.

Ditto with "The King in Yellow." No such thing.
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Old 2008-06-25, 21:24
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Still, you have to admit the entire mythos surrounding Lovecraft's work are intriguing and very, very influential.
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Old 2008-06-25, 23:24
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Still, you have to admit the entire mythos surrounding Lovecraft's work are intriguing and very, very influential.


Of course, I'm not denying that. You want a lovecraft protege? Look no further than Robert Bloch and Stephen King
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Old 2008-06-28, 02:53
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the necronomican is fictional and any copy of it you see in a store is a fake written by some chump looking for a quick buck.
lovecraft never wrote the necro and never intended for one to be written.

and all copies you'd find in a store are unsubstantial anyways because the longest ive ever seen was 100 pgs long while love craft makes references that the book is a 1000+ pgs long

but i love the cthulhu mythos and also the dream cycle , lovecraft is my favorite writer
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Old 2008-06-29, 23:25
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Well I can't remember where I read it, so don't quote me, but apparently the necronomicon was inspired by the ancient Egyptian book of the dead, which afaik contains various spells, incantations, embalming and burial rites. There are translated parts of the book of the Dead around, probably most in museums and libraries. Maybe something could be found online.

Or you could learn to read heiroglyphics.

Coincidentally, I just downloaded the 'simon' necronomicon five minutes before finding this thread.
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Old 2008-06-30, 15:44
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H.R. Giger's album of artwork named after the fictional book is definately worth getting. It's full of really awesome paintings.

http://www.stuartngbooks.com/giger_necronomicon.jpg
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Old 2008-06-30, 17:08
Tommy Lund Tommy Lund is offline
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Aye, I have it here. And no, I don`t think there is any truth to it.
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Old 2008-06-30, 17:16
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http://www.animetric.com/klm2/necro.html

^This^
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Old 2008-06-30, 20:20
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Still, you have to admit the entire mythos surrounding Lovecraft's work are intriguing and very, very influential.


True. But let us not forget that HP himself was a staunch materialist and didn't take seriously anything he wrote.
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Old 2008-07-03, 10:29
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well, despite what all of the identical cynical elitist stuck up internet nerds parrot, apparently its real. There's a book about it called 'dead names'. But I haven't really read it so I can't say whether it makes a feasible case or not.
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Old 2008-07-03, 23:22
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There are translated parts of the book of the Dead around, probably most in museums and libraries. Maybe something could be found online.

Or you could learn to read heiroglyphics.

I distinctly remember seeing the Egyptian Book of the Dead in a public library once. I was intrigued so I opened it up, and it was just a series of hieroglyphs with the translation underneath them, arranged in a book format. So basically, yes, you can easily find an English translation of the Egyptian Book of the Dead, which contains rites and whatnot. You could probably find it on Amazon.
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Old 2008-07-04, 22:09
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watch evil dead and army of darkness. bruce campbell will make you understand
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Old 2008-07-04, 22:09
Twisted_Ferret Twisted_Ferret is offline
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I have a large and beautiful copy of the Egyptian book of the dead. It's fun to read and look at, but unfortunately the spells and rites are all for when you are already in the realm of the dead. Still, it's interesting - a good glimpse of another culture far off in time and space.
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Old 2008-07-05, 00:17
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I have a large and beautiful copy of the Egyptian book of the dead. It's fun to read and look at, but unfortunately the spells and rites are all for when you are already in the realm of the dead. Still, it's interesting - a good glimpse of another culture far off in time and space.


At the art gallery in my city, they have a section of scroll about five meters long, without translations. I spent ages going up and down just looking at it. It's pretty cool.

Where did you get your copy?
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Old 2008-07-05, 10:37
Twisted_Ferret Twisted_Ferret is offline
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At the art gallery in my city, they have a section of scroll about five meters long, without translations. I spent ages going up and down just looking at it. It's pretty cool.

Where did you get your copy?
This, from Barnes and Noble. (http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Ancient-Egyptian-Book-of-the-Dead/Raymond-O-Faulkner/e/9780760773093) A reviewer on Amazon claimed it was the most complete and well-translated version, but I don't know how true that is. It's nice-looking, though. :)
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Old 2008-07-05, 16:14
Eldorhan Eldorhan is offline
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The necronomicon is indeed a legend, the book by abdul whatever is almost completely inspired from the "Munich Handbook", altho he didn't directly steal from it.

The "Munich Manual of Demonic Magic" (CLM 849 of the Bavarian State Library, Munich) is a fifteenth century grimoire manuscript. The text is largely concerned with Demonology and Necromancy.
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Old 2008-07-05, 17:11
HandicapParking HandicapParking is offline
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The Evil Dead special edition DVD comes in one.
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Old 2008-07-09, 05:01
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Originally Posted by Eagle Bay
Well I can't remember where I read it, so don't quote me, but apparently the necronomicon was inspired by the ancient Egyptian book of the dead, which afaik contains various spells, incantations, embalming and burial rites. There are translated parts of the book of the Dead around, probably most in museums and libraries. Maybe something could be found online.

Or you could learn to read heiroglyphics.

Coincidentally, I just downloaded the 'simon' necronomicon five minutes before finding this thread.


Quite true. It is supposedly based on numerous works around that time; although the 'modern' version was a fictional invention, many ancient text mention a book similar to the 'Necronomicon'. Try reading the version written by Donald Tyson if you like the others. Also you may find the following link useful:

http://www.digital-brilliance.com/necron/necron.htm


The Agency.
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Old 2008-07-13, 22:19
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i can assure you, there WAS a mad arab who did metaphysical and spiritual research regarding various macabre and strange matters. his name may or may not have been abdul alhazred. i don't know. but the necronimicon, as the IDEA of what it is, not necessarily the specifics, DID exist. it MIGHT still, but it is most likely lost, or kept somewhere where secure. most of lovecrafts writings are fictional; some are not.
 
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