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Old 2008-04-01, 00:58
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Default The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

As I'm gettng close to graduating from a Senior in HS, I'm wondering

Engineering fields have a shitload of science, and math. However I suck at math, but am good in sciences.

I wonder what precisely, the types of math are used in Civil and Electrical Engineering? I know computer engineering might rely heavily in coding and numbers, not sure about it. Same questions for an education in Astronomy or Geology?

I also wonder which types of math is used in being a historian or in any social sciences field

I also wonder, are there many jobs for being a historian or any social/political field (poli sci, geopolitics, etc) (other then being useful into politics)

So basically, should I attempt to increase my math strengths and abilities/experience or say 'fuck it' and go into a new field, like a computer field?

Also, do most colleges offer shadows and the like to help you plan and look into this?

thank you TOTSE :)

EDIT: I did some finance and can get much of the basic things behind an economy so that seems liek something I can see
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Old 2008-04-02, 02:30
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

First off I will let you know that ENEL is heavy into the math relative to ENCI.

Now I have an issue when people ask if engg is a lot of math. It depends on what you define as math as well as the school you go to as some schools will require engg students to take multiple math classes (at my school I took 4, calculus I-III (two courses), linear algebra and a course on DE's).
In short, yes I do a lot of math (simple addition/multiplication, algebra (solve for x), some calculus, differentiation, integration, differential equations, various numerical methods and matrixes). Now relative to a math major, the type of math I do is different as it has a point and is not proving theorems, lemmas and the like. What I do is use general equations to set up specific equations for a given problem. Now I will say that the math classes I took, I found them to be different then my engg classes although the applied math classes are a lot more similar then the math/pure math class that I took.

Can’t really comment on the other majors. I’m a mech engg student by the way
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Old 2008-04-02, 19:44
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

Any science or engineering is going to be quite math heavy--as backstabber said, you'll probably have to go through linear algebra and differential equations at the very least. One possible exception to this might be biological sciences, which rely less on equations and computation and more on memorization and application of terms.


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Old 2008-04-03, 05:19
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

I used to be a EE major, require math through Dif EQ (which means up to Calc III, then diffrential equations after that) as well as college physics, which is calc based physics (instead of just learning the equations, you learn the derivatives of the equations).

Once I go into the electrical shit in Physics II I figured out I hated electrical engineering (it's boring as shit), and switched to get my associates in History the next semester.

Every major will require at least college algebra. Right now I'm majoring in Historic Preservation. If you want a job in the history field, without being a teacher HP is the way to go. It's pretty solid training for archives (which any major corporation needs), museums, or historical sites. By no means is it a money career, but it's liveable and after time some money can be made. The Smithsonian is hiring three new exhibit designers (which is what I hope to get, and part of the reason I'm minoring in Interior Design) right now at 75k, but require either 5 years of field experience or a masters.

Any counseler or advisor at a school will help you plan this, and see what fields require what general types of courses.
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Old 2008-04-04, 01:58
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

cool. thanks. So I'l have to 'bite the bullet' in terms of math I guess.
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Old 2008-04-04, 08:55
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You'll find that as you get to higher levels in the sciences, math becomes more and more integral (so to speak); if you don't enjoy math, you're not going to enjoy science at the university level. Going into it with the idea of "biting the bullet" is probably not going to work in the long run, as you'll be unhappy with your major. Just some food for thought.


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Old 2008-04-22, 02:53
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

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You'll find that as you get to higher levels in the sciences, math becomes more and more integral (so to speak); if you don't enjoy math, you're not going to enjoy science at the university level. Going into it with the idea of "biting the bullet" is probably not going to work in the long run, as you'll be unhappy with your major. Just some food for thought.


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This. You should go into something that you love for what it is. When you really get down to it, most sciences boil down to being math. If you dont like math, you probably wont like science.

When I was at a university's open house, the emcee (an engineering student) took the podium and started like this: "When i first came to university, I knew I hated math. So i took physics. It was then i learned that physics is just math. So i switched to chemistry, which, at its highest levels is physics. So since chemistry and physics are just math, i decided to take biology. At the highest levels of biology, you study nothing but chemistry. This is why math is important"

So as you can see, if your outlook on learning math is "biting the bullet", you'll soon find yourself swamped with a whole lifetime of stuff you hate.

I, as well as many others im sure, are very fascinated by math. I love how it is endless; just when you think something is useless, you learn that it can be applied in ________ field. Before you go any further with math, learn to respect it, and yearn to know more, it makes learning so much funner.
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Old 2008-04-22, 17:21
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Default Re: The Amount of Math in Engineering, Astronomy and Historian fields. (and usefulness)

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You'll find that as you get to higher levels in the sciences, math becomes more and more integral (so to speak); if you don't enjoy math, you're not going to enjoy science at the university level. Going into it with the idea of "biting the bullet" is probably not going to work in the long run, as you'll be unhappy with your major. Just some food for thought.


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Disagree. I'm a chemistry major who struggles with basic algebra, and I love my major and I'm doing very well. It all depends on what area you go into. Since I'm biochem, I have to take less math and lower level p-chem and physics than professional emphasis majors. So..like I said, it just depends.
 
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