http://tinyurl.com/cthw2

This is just getting ridiculous now. One of the main guys against San Andreas is now claiming that you can unblur the characters in the Sims 2 and get "full frontal nudity" or something like that. He also threw in something about "a pedophiles dream" or something ridiculous.

Wow, Rockstar probably fucked over the whole industry for years to come.

Jack Thompson is a fucking idiot. Hes hated video games since DOOM, and hes been against it for decades, defending any kid who shoots another to say it was video games fault.

If you ever get tried for murder, call that guy and he'll blame it on video games somehow. I bet you'll probably get away with somethin like mental brainwashing or some shit.

I mean, they let go of games like Leasure Suit Larry and God of War, but fucking The Sims 2? This is bullshit.

Fuck Jack Thompson, fuck the soccer moms, and fuck the stupid kids who blame video games on their crime sprees. Its people like them who are putting a bad view to video games.

Its the kids fault for not being able to differentiate reality from virtual reality, and its the parents fault for not being able to tell the difference between Yoshi Touch & Go and Grand Theft Auto to buy for their 12 year old.

Especially when 90% of polled gamers parents dont check the ratings on any purchased or rented games. Leisure Suit Larry was raunchy.

Im curious as to the code in the game itself, the modder says this was there alreddy encoded into the game, rockstar says no way. Do any modders/proggers know if its possible to have sumtin like hot coffee without the code being there? Is it possible to unlock content in other games as well?

if you have access to the sims and can play online you have access to a lot more hardcore porn than cartoon smut that may be included in the game....big fucking deal. whoever's making a big fuss about this shit really needs to pull their head out of their ass.

Fuck fuck fuck fuck.

Nothings going to happen about any of this, so don't worry.

quote:Originally posted by XiPPiLLi:

Jack Thompson is a fucking idiot.

Fuck Jack Thompson, fuck the soccer moms, and fuck the stupid kids who blame video games on their crime sprees.

Agreed.

People are so fucking stupid. Kids see violence in games and go out and kill people? Well, if that's what games do, can you imagine what news coverage of wars and terrorism is doing to the children's fragile little minds? Yes, sarcasm there. Okay, games like GTA aren't suitable for kids, that's why they're 18-rated. If dumbshit parents didn't buy them for their ten-year-old, none of this would matter; don't blame the developers of the games.

Come on, the link says that underneath the blurring, there's nothing but Barbie-style smooth nothingness. It's a dead certainty that he's never played the game, or hardly even seen it in action, and he certainly won't have seen the de-pixellated Sims. I hate hate HATE people like this. Read this bit:

Sims kids can also be nudified, "much to the delight, one can be sure, of pedophiles around the globe who can rehearse, in virtual reality, for their abuse."

For fuck's sake. Yeah, they can de-pixel the genitally-deprived kiddies, then what? Click the "Molest" option? Buy a computer and choose "Visit chatroom", then select "Groom pre-teen for rape"? It's bullshit, total bullshit. It's just some misguided asshole who knows nothing about games blaming them for murders and suchlike - in this article, (http://tinyurl.com/bqgv8) it even says he partly blames id Software for Columbine - to gain publicity.

Sorry for the rant. It's just that this guy needs a good stabbing. Of course, he'd probably use his dying breath to say "it's evil, Satanic videogames that put the impulse to stab in your mind."

Bah, now I have the urge to go play The Sims 2.

quote:Originally posted by crimsonsmoke:

Nothings going to happen about any of this, so don't worry.

i agree.

there's too much money flying around in the game industry for this thing to be a really big problem. video games aren't a major part of our economy, but i'm sure they will be someday...

hell, if worst comes to worst, they can do like all other major businesses and grease up politicians with huge wads of cash.

yar

for fucks sakes,this guy is a fucking retard,so what if theres sex in the sims,so what if theres nudity in the sims,the game is a fucking LIFE SIMULATOR,its not like teenagers havent seen it all before,its not like there nver going to see a naked person and most of them probaly already have,this guy have fucking issues.

quote:Originally posted by XiPPiLLi:

Jack Thompson is a fucking idiot. Hes hated video games since DOOM, and hes been against it for decades, defending any kid who shoots another to say it was video games fault.

If you ever get tried for murder, call that guy and he'll blame it on video games somehow. I bet you'll probably get away with somethin like mental brainwashing or some shit.

I mean, they let go of games like Leasure Suit Larry and God of War, but fucking The Sims 2? This is bullshit.

Fuck Jack Thompson, fuck the soccer moms, and fuck the stupid kids who blame video games on their crime sprees. Its people like them who are putting a bad view to video games.

Its the kids fault for not being able to differentiate reality from virtual reality, and its the parents fault for not being able to tell the difference between Yoshi Touch & Go and Grand Theft Auto to buy for their 12 year old.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

I was so mad after I finished reading that article that I sent a note off to mr. thompson. His secretary will probably glance at it before she deletes it, but it felt good.

with a ratings system in place, the industry has covered its ass. everyone knows more legislation wouldnt make it past the appeals.

add to that fact that the average gamers age is like 30, and theyll have a hard time with any of this pussy bullshit hilary clinton is bitching about.

the fact is, you cant legislate responsibility. look, i dont think any 8 year old should be playing GTA. just like i dont think its a good idea for tem to be watching porn or smoking dope and drinking.

however, if little timmys parents could wedge there fat asses out of there chair or spend more tha 30 seconds with there kids a week, this problem might solve itself. and in a way that wouldnt involve fucking over the millions and millions of adults who play games regularly.

i mean really, how much effort does it take to look at the lower right hand side of a game box or on a CD/game manual and find the fucking rating? if thats too much to be excpected from a parent, maybe that parent shouldve have had kids.

how about putting some effort into your hatchlings?

bottom line: if you kid acts out over a video game, id be willing to lay big money the elevator didnt go to the top floor long before GTA or mortal kombat were around.

If you're in for a laugh at how much of an asshole Jack Thompson is, check out his wikipedia article.

If one of the goverments priorities has to do with video games, then the government is truly fucked up.

"We just bombed the hell out of a foreign country, killed thousands of civilians, but goddamnit if I catch you kids having sex...."

Holy shit, I got a response, or at least what appears to be an automated response.

As such:

quote:

Originally sent by dumbass lawyer:

Allow me to make this very clear to all in the so-called "gaming community"

who continue to email me for the purpose not of sharing information or

engaging in civil conversation but for the sole purpose of harassing me,

with garbage like the below email:

In Florida we have a cyber-stalking law. There are federal statutes as well

that prohibit what many of you are doing to me. Some of you have emailed me

and threatened to kill me. How interesting that you claim that I have

infringed on YOUR First Amendment rights. Your lack of courtesy and your

utter lack of reflection prove my and others' points about the corrosive

effects of the games.

I am warning all of you whom I have not invited to communicate with me after

an initial contact by you that I shall consider any further emails from you

as violative of my rights and violative of the aforementioned criminal

statutes.

There is nothing more hypocritical than a bunch of gamer thugs who harass me

and threaten me all in the name of "freedom of expression."

I have a constitutional right to talk, at the Senator's request, to the

staff of Senator Clinton. I did that. I have a right to point out that

Electronic Arts is engaged in a knowing conspiracy with the "mod community"

(what's next, "a pedophile community"?) to distribute porn to children. Any

of you who don't think that is what EA is doing need to get a law degree and

practice for 30 years, as I have. Then I'll be interested in your

"opinions" about The Sims 2 scandal.

If you videogaming thugs don't like what I do, then get off your rear ends

and talk to the media, talk to your representatives, and write articles for

your Internet game news sites. Don't flood my email inbox with your

petulant tirades which are neither welcome nor productive.

All they do is encourage me in my knowledge that normal people who have a

right to stop predatory video game companies' practices are going to succeed

in protecting children from those practices. Honestly, some of you email me

and threaten me because you say "You want to ban all video games." That is

reflective, by and large, of the perspicacity of the typical threatening

emails I get. Such people don't want facts. They want an argument. They

want to treat me as if I were some punching bag prostitute in GTA. I've had

it with this. I am going to stop it.

We won the "Hot Coffee mod" battle, and we shall win other battles. If any

of you clowns are still dumb enough to threaten me and harass me after

receiving this email, then contact your lawyers. You're going to need them.

Jack Thompson

I sent him another note, this one a little more to the point and without anger, totse style. He doesn't scare me, I don't give a shit what he does. I'll be damned if another retard bitches about something as stupid as a video game, especially the Sims 2. He really thinks that Video game companies are actually conspiring to "corrupt our youth".

quote:Originally posted by Township Rebellion:

I have a right to point out that

Electronic Arts is engaged in a knowing conspiracy with the "mod community"

(what's next, "a pedophile community"?) to distribute porn to children. Any

of you who don't think that is what EA is doing need to get a law degree and

practice for 30 years, as I have. Then I'll be interested in your

"opinions" about The Sims 2 scandal.



This is possibly the most outrageous thing to come out of this. How can he genuinely believe that EA is in a conspiracy to distribute porn to kids?

quote:Originally posted by H4TT3R:



This is possibly the most outrageous thing to come out of this. How can he genuinely believe that EA is in a conspiracy to distribute porn to kids?

Excuse me, have you been studying law for 30 years? Then what makes you think you can comment on computer games?

quote:Originally posted by l33t-haX0r:

Excuse me, have you been studying law for 30 years? Then what makes you think you can comment on computer games?



Nice touch with the satire.

Hey Township Rebellion, do you have a copy of the email you sent him that you could post? I'm going to email him. I'm going to be real polite about it and still see if he sends me that shit he sent you.

Edit: BTW, did you use this address: jackpeace@comcast.net

[This message has been edited by Blow5hitUp (edited 07-25-2005).]

Yes, that's the addy I used, on his homepage.

Do you want the original letter I sent him or the last one after he replied? I don't know if I can get the second one.

Whatever one, I don't care. I'm just interested to see what he considers a threat.

Most people have made good points, you all seem to think like I do.

But one arguement I want to add is with the nudity in the Sims 2. Like EA mentioned, though I don't think they were direct enough, is that this "nudity" is the same as if a child were to disrobe a Mattel doll. All Barbie, Ken, etc dolls have the exact same thing, and nobody has complained for the 50 years they've been around. Jack Thompson isn't complaining about this even though this is all being conieved by a larger, younger audience.

quote:Originally posted by Cybernetico:

Most people have made good points, you all seem to think like I do.

But one arguement I want to add is with the nudity in the Sims 2. Like EA mentioned, though I don't think they were direct enough, is that this "nudity" is the same as if a child were to disrobe a Mattel doll. All Barbie, Ken, etc dolls have the exact same thing, and nobody has complained for the 50 years they've been around. Jack Thompson isn't complaining about this even though this is all being conieved by a larger, younger audience.

I think Mr. Thompson thinks that there is more under the blur. I don't know if there is in Sims 2, but in Sims 1, I know theres nothing under that blur.

Apparently the people behind the Sims 2 have already pointed it out to Mr. Thompson that there's nothing under the pixels, but Jack still persists.

here's the original E-mail I sent him. I bet it's that last line that got to him, although it's not technically a threat.

quote:Hello, my name is jimmy.

I was recently playing super mario brothers when my on-screen character

ate a mushroom. I heard from the bigger kids in the hall that mushrooms in

real life are drugs. Mario is my hero and stuff and he uses drugs so should I

use drugs too because I'm a dumbass kid that can't think for myself???

Look here, sonny, you are a fool. This crap with GTA: San Andreas and now "The Sims 2" having full on nudity and sex, being "pornographic" needs to end, because anyone with a brain can see past your small-minded idiocy. If a child does wind up killing someone, it isn't because a video game told him/her to, it's because that child has a mental disorder, and/or has not recieved proper parenting. You need to get off your high-horse and quit filling the gullible soccor-moms of america with tripe. And worrying about sex in a video-game, an act that creates new life and is performed by EVERY HUMAN ON THE FACE OF THIS PLANET AT SOME TIME IN THEIR LIVES, is just stupid.

The only thing pushing me to murder is your dumb ass spewing worthless

bile in my ears.

I suggest changing the name at the beginning.

^ Good points, but it's hardly gonna help the cause

These are what Mr. Thompson would have been referring to. (http://tinyurl.com/8uzv5) They're downloadable nude skins for the Sims, NOT what's under the blur. It's the work of a few individual modders, NOT the mod community. He doesn't even understand that mods aren't endorsed by the developer. Idiot. There are things hundreds of times worse on the internet that are much, much easier to access. A fucking Google Image search will turn up kiddie porn, and he's worried that paedophiles will buy Sims 2 and download the mod to get their kicks? Gimme a fuckin' break. We may not have thirty years of law experience, but he has no videogaming experience, either, he is utterly unqualified to judge us.

Eh, this guy is just an attention whore... he's no better than the totse trolls.

If you feed him, he will grow. If you ignore him, he will die.

So just tell him to fuck off and leave it at that.

This guy is funny.

Obviously, this man has never performed in this disgraceful act of "Sex".

He makes it sound like you press the "Instant porno Button". Are you telling me a pedophile is going to spend days on end modding a game to wank of to pixels, rather than lure jim in his car with some candy?

I need his address, and then, I need money to order a hit on the dumbest asshole in the nation.

Apparently he is just jealous because he wasn't the first to figure out how. And let me ask you this...pedophile...isn't that a guy that molests children? Why would he be on the fucking computer? He's too busy buying duct tape and gloves. Fucking retards. They'll be sitting around their desk at the board room saying "Eh hehehe. We nail GTA, we're getting Sims2 up the ass...What obviously-retarded action can we take now? I know! Lets try the Soda-Pop Industry! We all know how provocative that is!"

[This message has been edited by Shishananee (edited 07-25-2005).]

They really didn't seem to care when the first Sims came along and had a nude patch. But now this?

You people are such idiots, especially you fucktards who are emailing that lawyer. You're only making yourselves look like fucking retards. The point isn't violence or sex in games, the point is violence in games which are rated teen or all ages.

When you sell a teen rated game, with hidden content that doesn't make the game teen rated anymore, you're breaking a fucking a law. They put those stickers on the game boxes for a fucking reason you numbnuts.

I don't even know why you dipshitheads are getting so worked up. Most of you are well past your teenage years, and most of you don't have children, so none of you are affected by this.

Besides, EA, The Sims and San Adreas all suck. You people put the gaming community to fucking shame with your bullshit. And don't you even think about mentioning totse in one of your petty emails. The last thing we want is some lawyer getting harassed by a bunch of retards related to totse. We've got enough bullshit to take, so just knock that shit off, before you get collectively banned.

I suggest you morons apologize to the man for spamming his mailbox with your idiocy.

Snoopy is an idiot.

Just look at your post. You say

"the point is violence in video games that are rated teen or all ages",

then, on a completly unrelated note, go on to make comments about hidden content in video games that have absolutley nothing to do with violence. You fucking goon.

You think the people that should be playing GTA (ie are old enough to play it, in this case 17+) will be some how corrupted by the hot coffee mod?

Infact if the game is already violent then what difference does it make. You think if it contains sexual references it should be made over 21? You're gay.

You're an idiot if you're playing San Adreas in the first place. And if you blow another one of my sentences out of context with your idiocy, kiss your posts goodbye.

And frankly, I don't care how the rating in the US works. Here, it's all, 12, 16 and 18. It's guidelines for parents. No one is going to stop you from buying San Andreas if you're between 13 and 16. No one gives a fuck. And really, I don't give a rat's ass what kids may or may not buy. If they don't have a job, and their parents buy them games, let the parents decide. If you're old enough to have a job and make money, buy with the money whatever you like. It's not like they have police officers standing in video games stores checking your ID.

That guy is clearly a nut, but you guys are idiots. The reason he's so popular is because idiot gamers don't know how to ignore irrelevant nuts like him. And emailing him is probably the worst thing you can do. The man's making a living from cases of video game violence of adult content. What are you making, besides vanilla pudding?

quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

And frankly, I don't care how the rating in the US works. Here, it's all, 12, 16 and 18. It's guidelines for parents. No one is going to stop you from buying San Andreas if you're between 13 and 16. No one gives a fuck. And really, I don't give a rat's ass what kids may or may not buy. If they don't have a job, and their parents buy them games, let the parents decide. If you're old enough to have a job and make money, buy with the money whatever you like. It's not like they have police officers standing in video games stores checking your ID.



In the UK GTA is rated an 18. So are films with violence and full frontal nudity and sex scenes. So why should people be bitching about pixels in video games when films have much more realistic and graphic content. That is the point snoopy.

I could'nt give a fuck who plays these games or what they are rated. But this guy is attacking games to make a filthy living for himself, and pretend he's doing it for the good of the younger generation at the same time. People like him should'nt be allowed.

I had to act stupid and now I'm gonna get banned from totse.

[This message has been edited by Snoopy (edited 07-26-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by l33t-haX0r:

In the UK GTA is rated an 18. So are films with violence and full frontal nudity and sex scenes. So why should people be bitching about pixels in video games when films have much more realistic and graphic content. That is the point snoopy.

I could'nt give a fuck who plays these games or what they are rated. But this guy is attacking games to make a filthy living for himself, and pretend he's doing it for the good of the younger generation at the same time. People like him should'nt be allowed.

You dumbshit. He can't decide what game gets what rating. There's a whole commission that does that. He can only sue a company if he feels that the game hasn't been rated properly. No one gives a shit. 12 year olds will still be watching incest porno on the Internet, but with an "18" sticker on San Andreas, at least all the fucking soccer moms will shut the fuck up.

Now only to shut you morons the fuck up, and the issue is solved. And the way this thread is going, you faggots will shut up pretty damn soon. I'm sick of these moronic pro-gamers/anti-gamers crap.

quote:Originally posted by Snoopy:

You dumbshit. He can't decide what game gets what rating. There's a whole commission that does that. He can only sue a company if he feels that the game hasn't been rated properly. No one gives a shit. 12 year olds will still be watching incest porno on the Internet, but with an "18" sticker on San Andreas, at least all the fucking soccer moms will shut the fuck up.

Now only to shut you morons the fuck up, and the issue is solved. And the way this thread is going, you faggots will shut up pretty damn soon. I'm sick of these moronic pro-gamers/anti-gamers crap.



He does'nt think a 17/18 year old is old enough to watch comical violence and pixilated tits. He's obviously just after the name and the money. He does'nt give a shit about the games and neither do I. He is an asshole and should be shot. End of story.

[This message has been edited by l33t-haX0r (edited 07-26-2005).]

quote:Originally posted by l33t-haX0r:

He is an asshole and should be shot. End of story.

I feel that way about 90% of everything. And seen as how you've chosen for the path of fascism, I shall too.